Load data for 8 x 65 R + .323 | 162gr | MEN SF

8 x 65 R cartridge drawing
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Load Specifications

Bullet Manufacturer:MEN
Bullet Weight:162 gr
Bullet Diameter:0.323"
Bullet Length:<<locked>>
Case Length (l3):2.559"
Cartridge Length (C.O.L.):<<locked>>
Case Capacity:70 Grains of Water
Primer Size:Large Rifle (LR)
Barrel Length:25.6"
Max. allowed Pressure:56,565 psi
Recommended Twist Rate:1:6.0

Load data in caliber 8 x 65 R with .323 | 162gr | MEN SF bullet and 80 powders. The key underlying parameters are shown in the table above. The recommended powders for this cartridge and bullet combination are ReloadSwiss RS 60, Alliant Reloder-17 and ReloadSwiss RS 52.

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Only powders/loads that match the current filter criteria are displayed: max pressure of a load ≤ 90% of max. standardized pressure, fill rate ≥ 80% and propellant combustion ≥ 95%. Use the sliders above the tables to adjust these thresholds.

Charge: Powder weight in grains. Start with the minimum load and work up carefully.

FR (Fill Rate): Case fill as a percentage. Values above 100% mean compressed loads.

MaxP / %: Maximum chamber pressure in bar and as a percentage of the standardized maximum for this caliber.

V(0): Muzzle velocity in feet per second (fps) at the standardized barrel length.

z (Powder Burn): Estimated propellant combustion percentage at bullet exit.

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Max Load - Barrel Length: 25.6"

PowderChargeFRMaxP%V(0)z
Accurate 2015<<locked>>84%48,544 psi86%2762 fps100%
Accurate 2460<<locked>>82%49,850 psi88%2825 fps100%
Accurate 2495<<locked>>90%49,153 psi87%2825 fps100%
Accurate 2520<<locked>>84%47,921 psi85%2831 fps100%
Accurate 4064<<locked>>92%49,066 psi87%2864 fps100%
Accurate 4350ᴾ<<locked>>100%47,979 psi85%2913 fps97.8%
ADI AR 2206H<<locked>>88%50,705 psi90%2894 fps99.1%
ADI AR 2208<<locked>>92%48,617 psi86%2838 fps98.3%
ADI Benchmark 8208<<locked>>86%50,096 psi89%2851 fps99.7%
Alliant AR-Comp<<locked>>86%49,559 psi88%2838 fps100%
Alliant Power Pro 2000-MR<<locked>>90%49,734 psi88%2992 fps98.5%
Alliant Reloder- TS 15.5<<locked>>94%50,879 psi90%2910 fps99.6%
Alliant Reloder-15<<locked>>90%48,486 psi86%2877 fps98.5%
Alliant Reloder-16ᴾ<<locked>>100%47,471 psi84%2920 fps97.9%
Alliant Reloder-17<<locked>>96%47,993 psi85%2963 fps99.3%
Baschieri & Pellagri 107<<locked>>88%50,154 psi89%2900 fps98.3%
Bofors RP3<<locked>>94%51,140 psi90%2923 fps99.7%
Hodgdon Benchmark<<locked>>84%49,168 psi87%2792 fps99.8%
Hodgdon BL-C2<<locked>>86%48,602 psi86%2874 fps99.8%
Hodgdon CFE223<<locked>>84%50,111 psi89%2963 fps98.8%
Hodgdon H322<<locked>>82%50,546 psi89%2854 fps100%
Hodgdon H380<<locked>>92%49,313 psi87%2877 fps97.5%
Hodgdon H4895<<locked>>88%51,155 psi90%2904 fps99.5%
Hodgdon Hybrid 100Vᴾ<<locked>>100%43,584 psi77%2799 fps98.4%
Hodgdon LEVERevolution<<locked>>90%49,748 psi88%2933 fps99.6%
Hodgdon TrailBossᴾ<<locked>>100%34,853 psi62%1785 fps100%
Hodgdon VARGET<<locked>>88%49,197 psi87%2854 fps99.2%
IMR 3031<<locked>>88%50,444 psi89%2897 fps100%
IMR 4064<<locked>>92%51,126 psi90%2871 fps98.9%
IMR 4831ᴾ<<locked>>100%45,759 psi81%2854 fps97.4%
IMR 4895<<locked>>90%49,676 psi88%2910 fps99.1%
IMR 8208 XBR<<locked>>86%50,096 psi89%2851 fps99.7%
Lovex D073.5<<locked>>82%49,806 psi88%2835 fps99.9%
Lovex D073.6<<locked>>88%49,559 psi88%2871 fps100%
Lovex S060<<locked>>88%50,879 psi90%2825 fps99.1%
Lovex S062<<locked>>92%50,618 psi89%2871 fps99.8%
Lovex S065<<locked>>98%49,763 psi88%2854 fps96.7%
Norma 201<<locked>>88%49,501 psi88%2841 fps99.6%
Norma 202<<locked>>88%49,821 psi88%2851 fps100%
Norma 203B<<locked>>92%50,763 psi90%2917 fps99.2%
Norma URPᴾ<<locked>>100%47,688 psi84%2907 fps97.7%
Ramshot Big Game<<locked>>92%51,010 psi90%2940 fps99.1%
Ramshot TAC<<locked>>86%50,357 psi89%2854 fps97%
Ramshot Wild Boar<<locked>>86%49,487 psi87%2877 fps98.9%
Ramshot X-Terminator<<locked>>84%51,010 psi90%2848 fps99%
ReloadSwiss RS 14ᴾ<<locked>>100%35,172 psi62%1827 fps100%
ReloadSwiss RS 40<<locked>>82%49,559 psi88%2835 fps100%
ReloadSwiss RS 50<<locked>>92%49,864 psi88%2854 fps95.9%
ReloadSwiss RS 52<<locked>>88%48,037 psi85%2936 fps98.4%
ReloadSwiss RS 60<<locked>>94%47,906 psi85%2972 fps100%
ReloadSwiss RS 62ᴾ<<locked>>100%47,616 psi84%2930 fps97.5%
ReloadSwiss RS 70ᴾ<<locked>>100%48,733 psi86%2953 fps96.9%
Rottweil R 901<<locked>>86%50,633 psi90%2831 fps100%
Rottweil R 902<<locked>>90%49,879 psi88%2838 fps99.7%
Rottweil R 903<<locked>>96%51,010 psi90%2913 fps99.5%
Shooters World Long Rifle<<locked>>98%49,763 psi88%2854 fps96.7%
Shooters World Match Rifle<<locked>>88%49,559 psi88%2871 fps100%
Shooters World Precision<<locked>>92%50,618 psi89%2871 fps99.8%
SNPE Vectan SP 11<<locked>>94%49,530 psi88%2920 fps99%
SNPE Vectan SP 7<<locked>>86%48,298 psi85%2828 fps97.1%
SNPE Vectan SP 9<<locked>>88%49,226 psi87%2864 fps98.9%
SNPE Vectan Tubal 3000<<locked>>86%48,414 psi86%2746 fps100%
SNPE Vectan Tubal 5000<<locked>>94%51,082 psi90%2789 fps100%
Somchem S321<<locked>>84%51,010 psi90%2884 fps99.8%
Somchem S335<<locked>>88%50,647 psi90%2792 fps100%
Somchem S341<<locked>>86%47,950 psi85%2825 fps98.7%
Somchem S355<<locked>>94%48,457 psi86%2861 fps99.2%
Somchem S365ᴾ<<locked>>100%42,453 psi75%2851 fps99.3%
Vihtavuori N130<<locked>>82%48,472 psi86%2720 fps100%
Vihtavuori N133<<locked>>86%48,486 psi86%2740 fps100%
Vihtavuori N135<<locked>>90%49,066 psi87%2815 fps100%
Vihtavuori N140<<locked>>90%50,256 psi89%2828 fps100%
Vihtavuori N150<<locked>>96%49,850 psi88%2848 fps99.9%
Vihtavuori N160ᴾ<<locked>>100%50,343 psi89%2907 fps98%
Vihtavuori N530<<locked>>86%50,241 psi89%2848 fps99.7%
Vihtavuori N540<<locked>>90%48,544 psi86%2822 fps100%
Vihtavuori N550ᴾ<<locked>>100%49,327 psi87%2910 fps97.7%
Winchester 6.5 StaBALL<<locked>>98%48,022 psi85%2838 fps99.2%
Winchester 748<<locked>>86%49,458 psi87%2894 fps99.9%
Winchester StaBALL Match<<locked>>88%48,544 psi86%2867 fps99.2%

Recommended = one of the top powders for this cartridge and bullet combination.

Start Load - Barrel Length: 25.6"

PowderChargeFRMaxP%V(0)z
Accurate 2015<<locked>>80%42,728 psi76%2667 fps100%
Accurate 2460<<locked>>80%46,572 psi82%2772 fps100%
Accurate 2495<<locked>>80%35,389 psi63%2579 fps100%
Accurate 2520<<locked>>80%41,901 psi74%2726 fps99.7%
Accurate 4064<<locked>>80%33,446 psi59%2559 fps99%
Accurate 4350<<locked>>94%38,827 psi69%2736 fps95.5%
ADI AR 2206H<<locked>>80%39,407 psi70%2674 fps97%
ADI AR 2208<<locked>>84%37,927 psi67%2625 fps95.7%
ADI Benchmark 8208<<locked>>80%41,394 psi73%2690 fps98.6%
Alliant AR-Comp<<locked>>80%40,640 psi72%2697 fps100%
Alliant Power Pro 2000-MR<<locked>>82%38,000 psi67%2736 fps95.2%
Alliant Reloder- TS 15.5<<locked>>80%32,706 psi58%2539 fps95.9%
Alliant Reloder-15<<locked>>80%35,317 psi62%2602 fps95.1%
Alliant Reloder-16<<locked>>94%39,479 psi70%2749 fps95.6%
Alliant Reloder-1755.3 gr86%34,330 psi61%2654 fps95.6%
Baschieri & Pellagri 107<<locked>>80%38,261 psi68%2667 fps95.4%
Bofors RP3<<locked>>80%31,981 psi57%2533 fps95.7%
Hodgdon Benchmark<<locked>>80%43,337 psi77%2687 fps99.2%
Hodgdon BL-C2<<locked>>80%39,668 psi70%2707 fps98.7%
Hodgdon CFE223<<locked>>80%43,468 psi77%2838 fps97.5%
Hodgdon H322<<locked>>80%47,108 psi83%2799 fps100%
Hodgdon H380<<locked>>86%40,364 psi71%2703 fps95.3%
Hodgdon H4895<<locked>>80%39,682 psi70%2687 fps97.6%
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V<<locked>>92%33,823 psi60%2582 fps95.5%
Hodgdon LEVERevolution<<locked>>80%35,607 psi63%2648 fps96.9%
Hodgdon TrailBoss<<locked>>80%25,759 psi46%1591 fps100%
Hodgdon VARGET<<locked>>80%38,130 psi67%2638 fps97.1%
IMR 3031<<locked>>80%38,595 psi68%2694 fps100%
IMR 4064<<locked>>80%35,056 psi62%2549 fps95%
IMR 4831<<locked>>94%37,478 psi66%2687 fps95.1%
IMR 4895<<locked>>80%36,085 psi64%2631 fps96.1%
IMR 8208 XBR<<locked>>80%41,394 psi73%2690 fps98.6%
Lovex D073.5<<locked>>80%46,543 psi82%2779 fps99.7%
Lovex D073.6<<locked>>80%37,898 psi67%2654 fps99.1%
Lovex S060<<locked>>80%39,900 psi71%2618 fps97.1%
Lovex S062<<locked>>80%34,780 psi61%2559 fps97%
Lovex S065<<locked>>94%44,019 psi78%2749 fps95.3%
Norma 201<<locked>>80%38,595 psi68%2631 fps98%
Norma 202<<locked>>80%38,696 psi68%2648 fps99.6%
Norma 203B<<locked>>80%34,679 psi61%2589 fps95.5%
Norma URP<<locked>>94%39,189 psi69%2736 fps95.4%
Ramshot Big Game<<locked>>82%36,477 psi64%2651 fps95.9%
Ramshot TAC<<locked>>82%44,019 psi78%2736 fps95.5%
Ramshot Wild Boar<<locked>>80%40,335 psi71%2703 fps97.2%
Ramshot X-Terminator<<locked>>80%44,846 psi79%2740 fps98.1%
ReloadSwiss RS 14<<locked>>80%26,136 psi46%1634 fps100%
ReloadSwiss RS 40<<locked>>80%46,325 psi82%2779 fps99.9%
ReloadSwiss RS 50<<locked>>90%46,688 psi83%2795 fps95.1%
ReloadSwiss RS 5250.7 gr80%36,405 psi64%2694 fps95.4%
ReloadSwiss RS 6051.5 gr80%30,168 psi53%2546 fps96.4%
ReloadSwiss RS 62<<locked>>96%41,481 psi73%2812 fps95.9%
ReloadSwiss RS 70<<locked>>96%42,366 psi75%2822 fps95%
Rottweil R 901<<locked>>80%42,322 psi75%2687 fps99.8%
Rottweil R 902<<locked>>80%36,680 psi65%2582 fps97.5%
Rottweil R 903<<locked>>82%32,213 psi57%2533 fps95.5%
Shooters World Long Rifle<<locked>>94%44,019 psi78%2749 fps95.3%
Shooters World Match Rifle<<locked>>80%37,898 psi67%2654 fps99.1%
Shooters World Precision<<locked>>80%34,780 psi61%2559 fps97%
SNPE Vectan SP 11<<locked>>84%35,592 psi63%2635 fps95.6%
SNPE Vectan SP 7<<locked>>82%42,177 psi75%2710 fps95.6%
SNPE Vectan SP 9<<locked>>80%37,927 psi67%2641 fps96.5%
SNPE Vectan Tubal 3000<<locked>>80%40,176 psi71%2598 fps99.7%
SNPE Vectan Tubal 5000<<locked>>80%33,069 psi58%2461 fps99.3%
Somchem S321<<locked>>80%44,454 psi79%2769 fps99.3%
Somchem S335<<locked>>80%39,697 psi70%2602 fps99.9%
Somchem S341<<locked>>80%38,957 psi69%2651 fps96.7%
Somchem S355<<locked>>82%33,228 psi59%2543 fps95.6%
Somchem S365<<locked>>90%30,821 psi54%2569 fps95.9%
Vihtavuori N130<<locked>>80%45,527 psi80%2674 fps100%
Vihtavuori N133<<locked>>80%40,335 psi71%2598 fps100%
Vihtavuori N135<<locked>>80%35,650 psi63%2579 fps100%
Vihtavuori N140<<locked>>80%36,463 psi64%2579 fps99.5%
Vihtavuori N150<<locked>>80%29,486 psi52%2425 fps95.7%
Vihtavuori N160<<locked>>92%38,653 psi68%2684 fps95.1%
Vihtavuori N530<<locked>>80%41,263 psi73%2684 fps98.6%
Vihtavuori N540<<locked>>80%35,070 psi62%2562 fps99%
Vihtavuori N550<<locked>>94%40,437 psi71%2743 fps95.5%
Winchester 6.5 StaBALL<<locked>>88%34,563 psi61%2559 fps95.9%
Winchester 748<<locked>>80%40,451 psi72%2726 fps99.1%
Winchester StaBALL Match<<locked>>80%37,202 psi66%2644 fps97%

Recommended = one of the top powders for this cartridge and bullet combination.

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This overview compares 80 powders for 8 x 65 R loaded with the .323 | 162gr | MEN SF. Alliant Power Pro 2000-MR delivers the highest muzzle velocity at 2,992 fps; across all powders the maximum-charge window runs from 1,785 fps to 2,992 fps. Accurate 4350 gives the best case fill at 100 %, and 80 of the 80 powders fall inside the usable 80–100 % fill window.

Relative to the caliber's maximum pressure (390 MPa), the top charges use 62–90 %, leaving at least 10 % headroom. The 162.0 gr projectile in 0.323" calls for a 1:6.0 twist; slower twists will usually not stabilise this weight. Accurate 4350, Alliant Reloder-16, Hodgdon Hybrid 100V reach 100 % fill or more at maximum charge, so these are compressed loads: they need a long drop tube to seat cleanly and react sensitively to the case capacity of your own brass lot. ReloadSwiss RS 60, Alliant Reloder-17, ReloadSwiss RS 52 rank at the top here: for 8 x 65 R with the .323 | 162gr | MEN SF they combine a high case fill with complete burn and sit in the upper velocity band. Always begin at the start load and work up in small increments while checking case and primer for pressure signs.

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