The 8 x 65 R cartridge is a classic European rimmed rifle round that has a storied history dating back to the late 19th century. Originally developed in Germany, the cartridge emerged during a period of innovation in European hunting and sporting rifle cartridges. It was created to provide hunters using break-action rifles and drillings with a powerful cartridge suitable for medium to large game. The design of the 8 x 65 R was heavily influenced by the earlier 8 x 57 JRS, providing similar performance but with a longer case length (65mm) to accommodate more powder and hence deliver higher velocities. Over time, the 8 x 65 R has maintained its popularity in Central Europe, remaining a favorite among hunters and enthusiasts who appreciate traditional rimmed cartridges and their reliable extraction in break-open firearms.
In terms of application, the 8 x 65 R is commonly used in combination guns such as drillings (three-barrel firearms) and double rifles, where its rimmed design ensures smooth extraction. It has been particularly favored by hunters traveling across rural regions of Germany, Austria, and neighboring countries, where combination guns are part of the hunting culture. The cartridge’s balance of manageable recoil and potent performance makes it well-suited for the classic European driven hunt, where the shooting distances are moderate but quick follow-up shots may be necessary. Reloaders have found the 8 x 65 R to be a versatile case, easily adaptable to a variety of bullet types and weights, offering good accuracy and performance for both open-country and woods hunting scenarios.
The 8 x 65 R is primarily aimed at medium to large game species. Owing to its effective ballistics, European hunters often use it for boar, red deer, and fallow deer, as well as for larger species such as elk or moose in central and eastern Europe. Its power makes it suitable for clean ethical kills at the kind of ranges typically encountered in European hunting fields, generally out to about 250 meters, depending on the load and the rifle. The versatility of the cartridge also means it can be used on smaller game, such as roe deer, by selecting lighter bullets and appropriate loads, thus minimizing meat damage and maximizing effectiveness.
When discussing bullet weights and caliber characteristics, the 8 x 65 R typically uses bullets in the 180- to 220-grain (11.7 to 14.3 grams) range. Traditional soft-point and modern polymer-tipped hunting bullets are both popular choices among reloaders. The combination of a reasonable case capacity and rimmed design ensures reliable performance and consistent extraction, especially important in break-action firearms. The overall cartridge length allows it to fit comfortably in the actions of classic combination guns, and the mild shoulder angle of the case aids in smooth chambering and extraction. With appropriate handloading techniques, reloaders can tune the 8 x 65 R for a range of applications, from moderate recoiling loads for target practice to full-power hunting rounds. The cartridge remains respected for its balance of power, accuracy, and vintage appeal, retaining a loyal following among both traditional hunters and modern reloaders seeking something a little different from the mainstream.
Suitable Powders
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8 x 65 R load data is available with the following bullets:
(most popular first)