Load data for 8.5 mm Messner Mag. + .338 | 220gr | Atomic 29 HP

8.5 mm Messner Mag. cartridge drawing
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Load Specifications

Bullet Manufacturer:Atomic 29
Bullet Weight:220 gr
Bullet Diameter:0.338"
Bullet Length:<<locked>>
Case Length (l3):2.508"
Cartridge Length (C.O.L.):<<locked>>
Case Capacity:106 Grains of Water
Primer Size:Large Rifle Magnum (LRM)
Barrel Length:25.6"
Max. allowed Pressure:63,817 psi
Recommended Twist Rate:1:14.0

Load data in caliber 8.5 mm Messner Mag. with .338 | 220gr | Atomic 29 HP bullet and 99 powders. The key underlying parameters are shown in the table above. The recommended powders for this cartridge and bullet combination are Alliant Reloder-26, ReloadSwiss RS 70 and Alliant Reloder-17.

Important Notice: DO NOT go below Minimum Charge or above Maximum Charge. Since we have no control over the equipment and components used, any responsibility and liability for the results achieved is rejected.

Only powders/loads that match the current filter criteria are displayed: max pressure of a load ≤ 90% of max. standardized pressure, fill rate ≥ 80% and propellant combustion ≥ 95%. Use the sliders above the tables to adjust these thresholds.

Charge: Powder weight in grains. Start with the minimum load and work up carefully.

FR (Fill Rate): Case fill as a percentage. Values above 100% mean compressed loads.

MaxP / %: Maximum chamber pressure in bar and as a percentage of the standardized maximum for this caliber.

V(0): Muzzle velocity in feet per second (fps) at the standardized barrel length.

z (Powder Burn): Estimated propellant combustion percentage at bullet exit.

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Max Load - Barrel Length: 25.6"

PowderChargeFRMaxP%V(0)z
Accurate 2495<<locked>>82%55,085 psi86%2746 fps100%
Accurate 2700<<locked>>84%56,724 psi89%2828 fps99.4%
Accurate 3100ᴾ<<locked>>100%54,404 psi85%2871 fps99.9%
Accurate 4064<<locked>>84%55,564 psi87%2802 fps100%
Accurate 4350<<locked>>92%56,739 psi89%2920 fps100%
Accurate MAGPROᴾ<<locked>>100%57,145 psi90%3025 fps97.4%
ADI AR 2208<<locked>>86%55,985 psi88%2841 fps100%
ADI AR 2209<<locked>>96%54,288 psi85%2917 fps98.7%
ADI AR 2213ᴾ<<locked>>100%55,550 psi87%2969 fps98%
Alliant Power Pro 2000-MR<<locked>>82%55,477 psi87%2966 fps100%
Alliant Power Pro Varmint<<locked>>96%54,288 psi85%2913 fps98.7%
Alliant Reloder- TS 15.5<<locked>>86%56,768 psi89%2861 fps100%
Alliant Reloder-15<<locked>>84%57,029 psi89%2887 fps100%
Alliant Reloder-16<<locked>>94%57,711 psi90%2976 fps100%
Alliant Reloder-17<<locked>>88%55,361 psi87%2946 fps100%
Alliant Reloder-19<<locked>>98%57,246 psi90%2959 fps99.1%
Alliant Reloder-22ᴾ<<locked>>100%54,462 psi85%2966 fps98.9%
Alliant Reloder-23ᴾ<<locked>>100%51,329 psi80%2887 fps100%
Alliant Reloder-25ᴾ<<locked>>100%44,628 psi70%2825 fps99.7%
Alliant Reloder-26<<locked>>98%55,245 psi87%3031 fps100%
Bofors RP15ᴾ<<locked>>100%49,850 psi78%2887 fps98.1%
Bofors RP3<<locked>>86%57,740 psi90%2881 fps100%
Bofors RP5ᴾ<<locked>>100%54,462 psi85%2966 fps98.9%
Bofors RP7<<locked>>90%56,971 psi89%2874 fps99.5%
Hodgdon H1000ᴾ<<locked>>100%44,309 psi69%2759 fps96.2%
Hodgdon H380<<locked>>84%54,404 psi85%2848 fps100%
Hodgdon H414<<locked>>90%55,347 psi87%2923 fps99.7%
Hodgdon H4350<<locked>>88%55,056 psi86%2881 fps99%
Hodgdon H4831<<locked>>98%55,767 psi87%2913 fps97.4%
Hodgdon H4831 SC<<locked>>98%54,476 psi85%2894 fps97.1%
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V<<locked>>94%54,360 psi85%2848 fps100%
Hodgdon LEVERevolution<<locked>>82%55,724 psi87%2881 fps100%
Hodgdon Retumboᴾ<<locked>>100%43,613 psi68%2858 fps97.6%
Hodgdon Superformance<<locked>>90%55,811 psi87%2966 fps99.6%
Hodgdon TrailBossᴾ<<locked>>100%36,376 psi57%1768 fps100%
Hodgdon VARGET<<locked>>82%56,449 psi88%2844 fps100%
IMR 4064<<locked>>84%55,390 psi87%2822 fps100%
IMR 4166 Enduron<<locked>>82%54,462 psi85%2808 fps99.5%
IMR 4350<<locked>>92%54,636 psi86%2854 fps99.3%
IMR 4451 Enduron<<locked>>88%55,303 psi87%2848 fps99.6%
IMR 4831<<locked>>94%57,116 psi90%2910 fps100%
IMR 4895<<locked>>82%54,839 psi86%2861 fps100%
IMR 4955 Enduron<<locked>>98%57,188 psi90%2897 fps97.7%
IMR 7828 SSCᴾ<<locked>>100%52,881 psi83%2943 fps97.6%
Lovex S060<<locked>>82%56,985 psi89%2808 fps100%
Lovex S062<<locked>>84%55,579 psi87%2815 fps100%
Lovex S065<<locked>>90%55,129 psi86%2841 fps100%
Lovex S070<<locked>>92%56,449 psi88%2884 fps99.8%
Lovex S071ᴾ<<locked>>100%45,165 psi71%2726 fps99.1%
Norma 201<<locked>>82%56,826 psi89%2825 fps100%
Norma 202<<locked>>82%57,725 psi90%2818 fps100%
Norma 203B<<locked>>84%56,318 psi88%2871 fps100%
Norma 204<<locked>>92%55,492 psi87%2910 fps98.7%
Norma MRP<<locked>>98%54,041 psi85%2989 fps99.7%
Norma URP<<locked>>92%55,434 psi87%2907 fps100%
Ramshot Big Game<<locked>>84%57,319 psi90%2900 fps100%
Ramshot Grandᴾ<<locked>>100%53,301 psi84%2956 fps98%
Ramshot Hunter<<locked>>92%54,418 psi85%2913 fps99.9%
Ramshot Magnumᴾ<<locked>>100%47,384 psi74%2828 fps98.4%
ReloadSwiss RS 14ᴾ<<locked>>100%37,072 psi58%1811 fps100%
ReloadSwiss RS 50<<locked>>84%54,447 psi85%2835 fps99.8%
ReloadSwiss RS 60<<locked>>86%54,708 psi86%2936 fps100%
ReloadSwiss RS 62<<locked>>92%56,797 psi89%2946 fps100%
ReloadSwiss RS 70<<locked>>92%55,361 psi87%2979 fps100%
ReloadSwiss RS 76ᴾ<<locked>>100%43,482 psi68%2851 fps98.5%
Rottweil R 902<<locked>>84%57,348 psi90%2822 fps100%
Rottweil R 903<<locked>>86%54,012 psi85%2825 fps100%
Rottweil R 904<<locked>>96%55,840 psi88%2884 fps98%
Rottweil R 905<<locked>>98%56,362 psi88%2946 fps99.1%
Rottweil R 907<<locked>>90%56,971 psi89%2874 fps99.5%
Shooters World Long Rifle<<locked>>90%55,129 psi86%2841 fps100%
Shooters World Precision<<locked>>84%55,579 psi87%2815 fps100%
Shooters World SW4350<<locked>>92%56,449 psi88%2884 fps99.8%
SNPE Vectan SP 11<<locked>>86%55,854 psi88%2887 fps100%
SNPE Vectan SP 9<<locked>>82%56,811 psi89%2858 fps100%
SNPE Vectan Tubal 3000<<locked>>82%57,580 psi90%2749 fps100%
SNPE Vectan Tubal 5000<<locked>>86%55,158 psi86%2710 fps100%
SNPE Vectan Tubal 7000<<locked>>90%54,824 psi86%2795 fps99.6%
SNPE Vectan Tubal 8000<<locked>>98%55,912 psi88%2940 fps99.1%
Somchem S335<<locked>>82%57,348 psi90%2746 fps100%
Somchem S355<<locked>>88%57,566 psi90%2871 fps100%
Somchem S361<<locked>>96%57,682 psi90%2877 fps97.6%
Somchem S365<<locked>>94%54,853 psi86%2904 fps100%
Somchem S385<<locked>>98%56,942 psi89%2920 fps99.6%
Vihtavuori N135<<locked>>82%54,418 psi85%2733 fps100%
Vihtavuori N140<<locked>>82%54,665 psi86%2749 fps100%
Vihtavuori N150<<locked>>88%55,550 psi87%2795 fps100%
Vihtavuori N160<<locked>>92%57,667 psi90%2900 fps100%
Vihtavuori N165ᴾ<<locked>>100%52,605 psi82%2838 fps98.9%
Vihtavuori N540<<locked>>84%56,405 psi88%2799 fps100%
Vihtavuori N550<<locked>>92%56,753 psi89%2907 fps100%
Vihtavuori N555ᴾ<<locked>>100%57,392 psi90%2966 fps100%
Vihtavuori N560<<locked>>98%54,331 psi85%2979 fps97.5%
Vihtavuori N565ᴾ<<locked>>100%46,079 psi72%2822 fps95.9%
Winchester 6.5 StaBALL<<locked>>92%57,595 psi90%2864 fps100%
Winchester 760<<locked>>90%55,550 psi87%2927 fps99.7%
Winchester StaBALL HDᴾ<<locked>>100%46,543 psi73%2953 fps100%
Winchester StaBALL Match<<locked>>82%56,913 psi89%2864 fps100%
Winchester Supreme 780ᴾ<<locked>>100%57,319 psi90%2917 fps99%

Recommended = one of the top powders for this cartridge and bullet combination.

Start Load - Barrel Length: 25.6"

PowderChargeFRMaxP%V(0)z
Accurate 2495<<locked>>80%51,387 psi81%2697 fps100%
Accurate 2700<<locked>>80%49,574 psi78%2717 fps98.5%
Accurate 3100<<locked>>84%31,227 psi49%2428 fps95.4%
Accurate 4064<<locked>>80%48,747 psi76%2707 fps100%
Accurate 4350<<locked>>80%37,333 psi59%2585 fps98.9%
Accurate MAGPRO<<locked>>96%49,284 psi77%2897 fps95.7%
ADI AR 2208<<locked>>80%46,427 psi73%2690 fps100%
ADI AR 2209<<locked>>86%38,885 psi61%2625 fps95%
ADI AR 2213<<locked>>94%45,353 psi71%2789 fps95.6%
Alliant Power Pro 2000-MR<<locked>>80%51,721 psi81%2910 fps100%
Alliant Power Pro Varmint<<locked>>86%38,972 psi61%2625 fps95.2%
Alliant Reloder- TS 15.5<<locked>>80%46,876 psi73%2713 fps100%
Alliant Reloder-15<<locked>>80%50,183 psi79%2782 fps100%
Alliant Reloder-16<<locked>>80%36,463 psi57%2598 fps99%
Alliant Reloder-1773.7 gr80%41,524 psi65%2723 fps100%
Alliant Reloder-19<<locked>>86%38,580 psi60%2618 fps95.1%
Alliant Reloder-22<<locked>>90%38,725 psi61%2667 fps95.3%
Alliant Reloder-23<<locked>>80%26,469 psi41%2349 fps96.9%
Alliant Reloder-25<<locked>>88%30,211 psi47%2474 fps95.3%
Alliant Reloder-2675.5 gr80%28,210 psi44%2454 fps95.2%
Bofors RP15<<locked>>92%38,203 psi60%2654 fps95%
Bofors RP3<<locked>>80%47,065 psi74%2723 fps100%
Bofors RP5<<locked>>90%38,725 psi61%2667 fps95.3%
Bofors RP7<<locked>>80%41,495 psi65%2602 fps97.1%
Hodgdon H1000<<locked>>98%41,336 psi65%2694 fps95.1%
Hodgdon H380<<locked>>80%47,572 psi75%2736 fps99.8%
Hodgdon H414<<locked>>80%39,465 psi62%2635 fps97.2%
Hodgdon H4350<<locked>>80%42,395 psi66%2654 fps96.6%
Hodgdon H4831<<locked>>94%48,544 psi76%2795 fps95.8%
Hodgdon H4831 SC<<locked>>94%47,630 psi75%2776 fps95.6%
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V<<locked>>80%34,040 psi53%2490 fps99.4%
Hodgdon LEVERevolution<<locked>>80%52,127 psi82%2828 fps100%
Hodgdon Retumbo<<locked>>96%38,247 psi60%2730 fps95.6%
Hodgdon Superformance<<locked>>80%38,377 psi60%2644 fps96.5%
Hodgdon TrailBoss<<locked>>80%27,166 psi43%1578 fps100%
Hodgdon VARGET<<locked>>80%52,852 psi83%2792 fps100%
IMR 4064<<locked>>80%48,834 psi77%2723 fps100%
IMR 4166 Enduron<<locked>>80%51,198 psi80%2756 fps99.2%
IMR 4350<<locked>>80%37,188 psi58%2530 fps95.8%
IMR 4451 Enduron<<locked>>80%42,946 psi67%2631 fps97.8%
IMR 4831<<locked>>80%35,897 psi56%2536 fps98.6%
IMR 4895<<locked>>80%51,488 psi81%2812 fps100%
IMR 4955 Enduron<<locked>>92%47,384 psi74%2736 fps95.7%
IMR 7828 SSC<<locked>>94%43,120 psi68%2756 fps95%
Lovex S060<<locked>>80%53,621 psi84%2759 fps100%
Lovex S062<<locked>>80%49,052 psi77%2717 fps100%
Lovex S065<<locked>>80%40,277 psi63%2579 fps98.4%
Lovex S070<<locked>>80%38,522 psi60%2562 fps97.1%
Lovex S071<<locked>>88%30,356 psi48%2405 fps95%
Norma 201<<locked>>80%53,200 psi83%2772 fps100%
Norma 202<<locked>>80%54,041 psi85%2769 fps100%
Norma 203B<<locked>>80%49,545 psi78%2769 fps100%
Norma 204<<locked>>82%39,276 psi62%2615 fps95.1%
Norma MRP<<locked>>86%35,288 psi55%2618 fps95.6%
Norma URP<<locked>>80%37,246 psi58%2582 fps98.7%
Ramshot Big Game<<locked>>80%50,038 psi78%2795 fps100%
Ramshot Grand<<locked>>94%42,786 psi67%2762 fps95.3%
Ramshot Hunter<<locked>>80%36,158 psi57%2569 fps97%
Ramshot Magnum<<locked>>94%38,029 psi60%2641 fps95.8%
ReloadSwiss RS 14<<locked>>80%27,543 psi43%1614 fps100%
ReloadSwiss RS 50<<locked>>80%47,630 psi75%2723 fps99.2%
ReloadSwiss RS 60<<locked>>80%44,179 psi69%2772 fps100%
ReloadSwiss RS 62<<locked>>80%37,115 psi58%2602 fps98.6%
ReloadSwiss RS 7074.9 gr80%36,187 psi57%2615 fps98.1%
ReloadSwiss RS 76<<locked>>94%35,157 psi55%2644 fps95.4%
Rottweil R 902<<locked>>80%50,821 psi80%2730 fps100%
Rottweil R 903<<locked>>80%44,324 psi69%2671 fps100%
Rottweil R 904<<locked>>88%43,149 psi68%2664 fps95.2%
Rottweil R 905<<locked>>86%37,666 psi59%2602 fps95%
Rottweil R 907<<locked>>80%41,495 psi65%2602 fps97.1%
Shooters World Long Rifle<<locked>>80%40,277 psi63%2579 fps98.4%
Shooters World Precision<<locked>>80%49,052 psi77%2717 fps100%
Shooters World SW4350<<locked>>80%38,522 psi60%2562 fps97.1%
SNPE Vectan SP 11<<locked>>80%45,745 psi72%2730 fps100%
SNPE Vectan SP 9<<locked>>80%53,272 psi83%2808 fps100%
SNPE Vectan Tubal 3000<<locked>>80%54,259 psi85%2707 fps100%
SNPE Vectan Tubal 5000<<locked>>80%45,861 psi72%2575 fps100%
SNPE Vectan Tubal 7000<<locked>>80%39,407 psi62%2526 fps97.1%
SNPE Vectan Tubal 8000<<locked>>88%39,842 psi62%2654 fps95.7%
Somchem S335<<locked>>80%53,751 psi84%2700 fps100%
Somchem S355<<locked>>80%44,628 psi70%2667 fps100%
Somchem S361<<locked>>90%47,166 psi74%2710 fps95.4%
Somchem S365<<locked>>80%33,678 psi53%2536 fps99.9%
Somchem S385<<locked>>84%35,708 psi56%2530 fps95.3%
Vihtavuori N135<<locked>>80%51,227 psi80%2690 fps100%
Vihtavuori N140<<locked>>80%51,343 psi80%2703 fps100%
Vihtavuori N150<<locked>>80%42,685 psi67%2598 fps100%
Vihtavuori N160<<locked>>80%38,711 psi61%2582 fps99%
Vihtavuori N165<<locked>>90%37,681 psi59%2566 fps95.5%
Vihtavuori N540<<locked>>80%49,574 psi78%2700 fps100%
Vihtavuori N550<<locked>>80%38,087 psi60%2582 fps98.7%
Vihtavuori N555<<locked>>80%29,240 psi46%2425 fps97%
Vihtavuori N560<<locked>>94%47,398 psi74%2858 fps95.9%
Vihtavuori N565<<locked>>98%42,946 psi67%2762 fps95%
Winchester 6.5 StaBALL<<locked>>80%37,782 psi59%2549 fps99.9%
Winchester 760<<locked>>80%39,595 psi62%2638 fps97.2%
Winchester StaBALL HD<<locked>>80%23,322 psi37%2316 fps95.6%
Winchester StaBALL Match<<locked>>80%53,287 psi84%2812 fps100%
Winchester Supreme 780<<locked>>90%40,321 psi63%2628 fps95.7%

Recommended = one of the top powders for this cartridge and bullet combination.

ᴾ possible press load - work up slowly to this load while watching for signs of excessive pressure.

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This overview compares 99 powders for 8.5 mm Messner Mag. loaded with the .338 | 220gr | Atomic 29 HP. Alliant Reloder-26 delivers the highest muzzle velocity at 3,031 fps; across all powders the maximum-charge window runs from 1,768 fps to 3,031 fps. Accurate 3100 gives the best case fill at 100 %, and 99 of the 99 powders fall inside the usable 80–100 % fill window.

Relative to the caliber's maximum pressure (440 MPa), the top charges use 57–90 %, leaving at least 10 % headroom. The 220.0 gr projectile in 0.338" calls for a 1:14.0 twist; slower twists will usually not stabilise this weight. Accurate 3100, Accurate MAGPRO, ADI AR 2213 reach 100 % fill or more at maximum charge, so these are compressed loads: they need a long drop tube to seat cleanly and react sensitively to the case capacity of your own brass lot. Alliant Reloder-26, ReloadSwiss RS 70, Alliant Reloder-17 rank at the top here: for 8.5 mm Messner Mag. with the .338 | 220gr | Atomic 29 HP they combine a high case fill with complete burn and sit in the upper velocity band. Always begin at the start load and work up in small increments while checking case and primer for pressure signs.

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