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Load data for 8.5 mm Messner Magnum + .338 | 250gr | Lapua Scenar

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Recommended Powder(s): ADI AR 2209, Alliant Reloder-19, Alliant Reloder-26, Norma MRP, Rottweil R 905

8.5 mm Messner Magnum + .338 | 250gr | Lapua Scenar

Load Specifications

Bullet:
.338 | 250gr | Lapua Scenar
Manufacturer SKU:
4PL8017 | GB488
Bullet Weight:
250gr | 16.2g
Bullet Diameter:
0.338" | 8.59mm
Bullet Length:
1.575" | 40.0mm
Caliber:
8.5 mm Messner Magnum
Case Length (l3):
2.508" | 63.7mm
Cartridge Length (C.O.L.):
3.413" | 86.7mm
Seated Depth:
0.670" | 17.0mm
Shank Seated Depth:
0.414" | 10.5mm
Case Capacity:
106.0 Grains of Water | 6.88 cm³
Primer Size:
Large Rifle Magnum (LRM)
Max. allowed Pressure:
63817 psi | 4400 bar
LID:
LID_B3200_C1203

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Load data for 144 loads in caliber 8.5 mm Messner Magnum with .338 | 250gr | Lapua Scenar bullet and 72 powders such as ADI AR 2209, Alliant Reloder-19, Alliant Reloder-26, Norma MRP, Rottweil R 905. The key underlying parameters are shown in the table above.

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Powder
Charge
FR
MaxP
%
V(0)
z
ADI AR 2208
<<locked>>
84%
57000
89%
**31
100%
ADI AR 2209 👍
<<locked>>
95%
56942
89%
**30
99%
ADI AR 2213
<<locked>>
97%
55129
86%
**36
98%
ADI AR 2217
<<locked>>
97%
40408
63%
**70
95%
ADI AR 2225
<<locked>>
97%
35592
56%
**31
97%
Accurate 2700
<<locked>>
85%
57101
89%
**05
100%
Accurate 3100
<<locked>>
97%
55187
86%
**54
100%
Accurate 4350
<<locked>>
89%
56898
89%
**90
100%
Accurate MAGPRO
<<locked>>
97%
53606
84%
**36
97%
Alliant Reloder- TS 15.5
<<locked>>
83%
56840
89%
**31
100%
Alliant Reloder-16
<<locked>>
90%
56666
89%
**26
100%
Alliant Reloder-17
<<locked>>
86%
57000
89%
**36
100%
Alliant Reloder-19 👍
<<locked>>
95%
56753
89%
**23
99%
Alliant Reloder-22
<<locked>>
97%
54621
86%
**40
99%
Alliant Reloder-23
<<locked>>
97%
51692
81%
**61
100%
Alliant Reloder-25
<<locked>>
97%
44875
70%
**12
100%
Alliant Reloder-26 👍
<<locked>>
95%
56652
89%
**08
100%
Hodgdon H1000
<<locked>>
97%
40408
63%
**70
95%
Hodgdon H414
<<locked>>
85%
56681
89%
**07
100%
Hodgdon H4350
<<locked>>
92%
57058
89%
**71
100%
Hodgdon H4831
<<locked>>
97%
51097
80%
**21
97%
Hodgdon H4831 SC
<<locked>>
96%
57203
90%
**17
98%
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V
<<locked>>
92%
57014
89%
**54
100%
Hodgdon LVR
<<locked>>
88%
56985
89%
**94
100%
Hodgdon Retumbo
<<locked>>
97%
35592
56%
**31
97%
Hodgdon Superperformance
<<locked>>
88%
56782
89%
**49
100%
Hodgdon VARGET
<<locked>>
84%
56826
89%
**25
100%
IMR 4064
<<locked>>
85%
57203
90%
**21
100%
IMR 4166 Enduron
<<locked>>
85%
57377
90%
**28
100%
IMR 4350
<<locked>>
91%
57087
89%
**67
100%
IMR 4451 Enduron
<<locked>>
87%
57334
90%
**57
100%
IMR 4831
<<locked>>
94%
57116
89%
**80
100%
IMR 4955 Enduron
<<locked>>
97%
56115
88%
**61
98%
IMR 7828 SSC
<<locked>>
97%
57029
89%
**82
99%
Lovex S065
<<locked>>
88%
56956
89%
**41
100%
Lovex S070
<<locked>>
90%
57406
90%
**74
100%
Lovex S071
<<locked>>
97%
45890
72%
**16
100%
Norma 204
<<locked>>
90%
57363
90%
**17
99%
[Norma 217]*
<<locked>>
97%
31821
50%
**59
94%
Norma MRP 👍
<<locked>>
96%
57305
90%
**99
100%
Norma URP
<<locked>>
90%
57232
90%
**00
100%
Ramshot Hunter
<<locked>>
91%
57319
90%
**23
100%
Ramshot Magnum
<<locked>>
97%
52924
83%
**00
100%
ReloadSwiss RS 60
<<locked>>
87%
56884
89%
**49
100%
ReloadSwiss RS 62
<<locked>>
89%
57261
90%
**17
100%
ReloadSwiss RS 70
<<locked>>
90%
57435
90%
**72
100%
ReloadSwiss RS 76
<<locked>>
97%
43743
69%
**48
99%
[ReloadSwiss RS 80]*
<<locked>>
97%
38986
61%
**16
93%
Rottweil R 903
<<locked>>
85%
57203
90%
**38
100%
Rottweil R 904
<<locked>>
94%
57319
90%
**84
99%
Rottweil R 905 👍
<<locked>>
95%
57217
90%
**30
100%
Rottweil R 907
<<locked>>
87%
57188
90%
**51
100%
SNPE Vectan SP 11
<<locked>>
84%
57058
89%
**74
100%
SNPE Vectan Tubal 5000
<<locked>>
84%
56985
89%
**10
100%
SNPE Vectan Tubal 7000
<<locked>>
89%
57188
90%
**08
100%
Shooters World Long Rifle
<<locked>>
88%
56956
89%
**41
100%
Somchem S355
<<locked>>
85%
57130
90%
**31
100%
Somchem S361
<<locked>>
93%
57116
90%
**57
98%
Somchem S365
<<locked>>
92%
56608
89%
**90
100%
Somchem S385
<<locked>>
95%
57203
90%
**94
100%
Vihtavuori N135
<<locked>>
86%
57101
89%
**43
100%
Vihtavuori N150
<<locked>>
90%
57116
89%
**92
100%
Vihtavuori N160
<<locked>>
88%
57435
90%
**64
100%
Vihtavuori N165
<<locked>>
97%
51024
80%
**95
99%
Vihtavuori N550
<<locked>>
87%
56840
89%
**94
100%
Vihtavuori N555
<<locked>>
96%
57087
89%
**23
100%
Vihtavuori N560
<<locked>>
97%
54636
86%
**56
98%
Vihtavuori N565
<<locked>>
97%
46789
73%
**18
97%
[Vihtavuori N568]*
<<locked>>
97%
40857
64%
**46
93%
Winchester 6.5 StaBALL
<<locked>>
89%
57232
90%
**31
100%
Winchester 760
<<locked>>
85%
56681
89%
**07
100%
Winchester StaBALL HD
<<locked>>
97%
47979
75%
**40
100%

Max Load - Barrel Length: 23.60''

Powder
Charge
FR
MaxP
%
V(0)
z
ADI AR 2208
<<locked>>
81%
52054
82%
**59
100%
ADI AR 2209
<<locked>>
81%
36506
57%
**69
95%
[ADI AR 2213]*
<<locked>>
81%
32576
51%
**93
91%
[ADI AR 2217]*
<<locked>>
89%
31502
49%
**57
90%
[ADI AR 2225]*
<<locked>>
87%
26266
41%
**56
90%
Accurate 2700
<<locked>>
81%
50473
79%
**10
99%
Accurate 3100
<<locked>>
81%
32155
50%
**51
97%
Accurate 4350
<<locked>>
81%
43482
68%
**90
100%
[Accurate MAGPRO]*
<<locked>>
84%
34824
55%
**72
90%
Alliant Reloder- TS 15.5
<<locked>>
81%
53026
83%
**82
100%
Alliant Reloder-16
<<locked>>
81%
41974
66%
**93
100%
Alliant Reloder-17
<<locked>>
81%
48109
75%
**08
100%
Alliant Reloder-19
<<locked>>
81%
36405
57%
**62
95%
[Alliant Reloder-22]*
<<locked>>
81%
32256
51%
**03
93%
Alliant Reloder-23
<<locked>>
81%
30995
49%
**77
99%
[Alliant Reloder-25]*
<<locked>>
81%
27137
43%
**88
94%
Alliant Reloder-26
<<locked>>
81%
33504
52%
**05
98%
[Hodgdon H1000]*
<<locked>>
89%
31502
49%
**57
90%
Hodgdon H414
<<locked>>
81%
49240
77%
**98
99%
Hodgdon H4350
<<locked>>
81%
40379
63%
**88
97%
[Hodgdon H4831]*
<<locked>>
82%
31517
49%
**28
90%
[Hodgdon H4831 SC]*
<<locked>>
81%
34127
53%
**90
91%
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V
<<locked>>
81%
39537
62%
**88
100%
Hodgdon LVR
<<locked>>
81%
46050
72%
**30
100%
[Hodgdon Retumbo]*
<<locked>>
87%
26266
41%
**56
90%
Hodgdon Superperformance
<<locked>>
81%
44527
70%
**56
99%
Hodgdon VARGET
<<locked>>
81%
51880
81%
**59
100%
IMR 4064
<<locked>>
81%
51329
80%
**39
100%
IMR 4166 Enduron
<<locked>>
81%
49893
78%
**23
99%
IMR 4350
<<locked>>
81%
42293
66%
**31
98%
IMR 4451 Enduron
<<locked>>
81%
48370
76%
**16
99%
IMR 4831
<<locked>>
81%
37710
59%
**65
99%
[IMR 4955 Enduron]*
<<locked>>
81%
34606
54%
**70
92%
[IMR 7828 SSC]*
<<locked>>
81%
33214
52%
**20
92%
Lovex S065
<<locked>>
81%
45861
72%
**74
100%
Lovex S070
<<locked>>
81%
44135
69%
**61
99%
[Lovex S071]*
<<locked>>
81%
27673
43%
**36
94%
Norma 204
<<locked>>
81%
42090
66%
**57
97%
[Norma 217]*
<<locked>>
91%
26455
41%
**01
90%
Norma MRP
<<locked>>
81%
33634
53%
**69
96%
Norma URP
<<locked>>
81%
43047
67%
**80
100%
Ramshot Hunter
<<locked>>
81%
41742
65%
**74
99%
[Ramshot Magnum]*
<<locked>>
81%
29646
46%
**31
93%
ReloadSwiss RS 60
<<locked>>
81%
46224
72%
**98
100%
ReloadSwiss RS 62
<<locked>>
81%
43424
68%
**13
100%
ReloadSwiss RS 70
<<locked>>
81%
41611
65%
**20
100%
[ReloadSwiss RS 76]*
<<locked>>
82%
26469
41%
**88
90%
[ReloadSwiss RS 80]*
<<locked>>
92%
33446
52%
**82
90%
Rottweil R 903
<<locked>>
81%
50894
80%
**52
100%
[Rottweil R 904]*
<<locked>>
81%
37927
59%
**52
94%
Rottweil R 905
<<locked>>
81%
35621
56%
**46
95%
Rottweil R 907
<<locked>>
81%
47021
74%
**93
99%
SNPE Vectan SP 11
<<locked>>
81%
51996
81%
**98
100%
SNPE Vectan Tubal 5000
<<locked>>
81%
51256
80%
**38
100%
SNPE Vectan Tubal 7000
<<locked>>
81%
44875
70%
**21
99%
Shooters World Long Rifle
<<locked>>
81%
45861
72%
**74
100%
Somchem S355
<<locked>>
81%
50807
80%
**43
100%
[Somchem S361]*
<<locked>>
81%
38464
60%
**39
93%
Somchem S365
<<locked>>
81%
39595
62%
**41
100%
Somchem S385
<<locked>>
81%
36260
57%
**36
96%
Vihtavuori N135
<<locked>>
81%
49472
78%
**44
100%
Vihtavuori N150
<<locked>>
81%
43569
68%
**02
100%
Vihtavuori N160
<<locked>>
81%
46427
73%
**07
100%
[Vihtavuori N165]*
<<locked>>
81%
30501
48%
**98
93%
Vihtavuori N550
<<locked>>
81%
46789
73%
**46
100%
Vihtavuori N555
<<locked>>
81%
34635
54%
**52
99%
[Vihtavuori N560]*
<<locked>>
81%
32358
51%
**16
91%
[Vihtavuori N565]*
<<locked>>
84%
30385
48%
**67
90%
[Vihtavuori N568]*
<<locked>>
92%
34664
54%
**98
90%
Winchester 6.5 StaBALL
<<locked>>
81%
43279
68%
**38
100%
Winchester 760
<<locked>>
81%
49240
77%
**98
99%
Winchester StaBALL HD
<<locked>>
81%
25512
40%
**83
99%

Start Load - Barrel Length: 23.60''

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FR ... fill rate of the cartridge in percent

MaxP ... max. pressure of load in psi or bar

% ... max. pressure of load in percent of the maximum allowed pressure for this caliber 

V(0) ... muzzle velocity in feet per second (fps) or  meters per second (m/s)

z ... powder burnt in percent

[...] *... not dangerous but load has suboptimal powder burnt with possible characteristics such as extensive muzzle flash or inaccurate loads.

[...] ²... fill rate low - you might want to consider using a filler to ensure proper ignition.

[...] ᴾ... possible press load - work up slowly to this load while watching for signs of excessive pressure.

👍  ... recommended powder/load for this caliber and bullet combination based on its ballistic performance.

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