Load data for 8.5 mm Messner Mag. + .338 | 225gr | Hornady InterLock

8.5 mm Messner Mag. cartridge drawing
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Load Specifications

Bullet Manufacturer:Hornady
Bullet Weight:225 gr
Bullet Diameter:0.338"
Bullet Length:<<locked>>
Case Length (l3):2.508"
Cartridge Length (C.O.L.):<<locked>>
Case Capacity:106 Grains of Water
Primer Size:Large Rifle Magnum (LRM)
Barrel Length:25.6"
Max. allowed Pressure:63,817 psi
Recommended Twist Rate:1:16.5

Load data in caliber 8.5 mm Messner Mag. with .338 | 225gr | Hornady InterLock bullet and 92 powders. The key underlying parameters are shown in the table above. The recommended powders for this cartridge and bullet combination are Accurate High Country, Norma MRP and Vihtavuori N560.

Important Notice: DO NOT go below Minimum Charge or above Maximum Charge. Since we have no control over the equipment and components used, any responsibility and liability for the results achieved is rejected.

Only powders/loads that match the current filter criteria are displayed: max pressure of a load ≤ 90% of max. standardized pressure, fill rate ≥ 80% and propellant combustion ≥ 95%. Use the sliders above the tables to adjust these thresholds.

Charge: Powder weight in grains. Start with the minimum load and work up carefully.

FR (Fill Rate): Case fill as a percentage. Values above 100% mean compressed loads.

MaxP / %: Maximum chamber pressure in bar and as a percentage of the standardized maximum for this caliber.

V(0): Muzzle velocity in feet per second (fps) at the standardized barrel length.

z (Powder Burn): Estimated propellant combustion percentage at bullet exit.

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Max Load - Barrel Length: 25.6"

PowderChargeFRMaxP%V(0)z
Accurate 2495<<locked>>82%57,638 psi90%2753 fps100%
Accurate 2700<<locked>>82%55,492 psi87%2795 fps99.5%
Accurate 3100<<locked>>98%54,012 psi85%2844 fps100%
Accurate 4064<<locked>>82%54,636 psi86%2766 fps100%
Accurate 4350<<locked>>90%56,115 psi88%2890 fps100%
Accurate High Country<<locked>>96%55,608 psi87%2999 fps98.7%
Accurate MAGPRO<<locked>>98%56,550 psi89%2999 fps97.8%
ADI AR 2208<<locked>>84%54,926 psi86%2805 fps100%
ADI AR 2209<<locked>>96%57,101 psi89%2943 fps99.3%
ADI AR 2213<<locked>>98%54,810 psi86%2943 fps98.3%
ADI AR 2225ᴾ<<locked>>100%37,362 psi59%2657 fps97.3%
Alliant Reloder- TS 15.5<<locked>>84%55,825 psi87%2828 fps100%
Alliant Reloder-15<<locked>>82%55,883 psi88%2851 fps100%
Alliant Reloder-16<<locked>>92%57,072 psi89%2946 fps100%
Alliant Reloder-17<<locked>>86%54,694 psi86%2913 fps100%
Alliant Reloder-19<<locked>>96%56,478 psi89%2930 fps99.3%
Alliant Reloder-22<<locked>>98%54,070 psi85%2936 fps99.2%
Alliant Reloder-23ᴾ<<locked>>100%54,853 psi86%2910 fps100%
Alliant Reloder-25ᴾ<<locked>>100%47,239 psi74%2854 fps100%
Alliant Reloder-26<<locked>>96%54,984 psi86%3002 fps100%
Baschieri & Pellagri 109ᴾ<<locked>>100%57,421 psi90%2907 fps95.9%
Bofors RP15ᴾ<<locked>>100%53,040 psi83%2920 fps99%
Bofors RP3<<locked>>84%56,710 psi89%2844 fps100%
Bofors RP30ᴾ<<locked>>100%43,033 psi67%2776 fps96.5%
Bofors RP5<<locked>>98%54,070 psi85%2936 fps99.2%
Bofors RP7<<locked>>88%55,956 psi88%2838 fps99.6%
Hodgdon H1000ᴾ<<locked>>100%46,804 psi73%2799 fps97.5%
Hodgdon H380<<locked>>84%57,000 psi89%2867 fps100%
Hodgdon H414<<locked>>88%54,491 psi85%2890 fps99.8%
Hodgdon H4350<<locked>>88%57,711 psi90%2904 fps99.5%
Hodgdon H4831<<locked>>96%54,839 psi86%2884 fps97.7%
Hodgdon H4831 SC<<locked>>98%57,566 psi90%2923 fps98.1%
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V<<locked>>94%57,305 psi90%2864 fps100%
Hodgdon Retumboᴾ<<locked>>100%46,282 psi73%2900 fps98.7%
Hodgdon Superformance<<locked>>88%54,795 psi86%2927 fps99.7%
Hodgdon TrailBossᴾ<<locked>>100%36,506 psi57%1762 fps100%
IMR 4064<<locked>>82%54,244 psi85%2785 fps100%
IMR 4166 Enduron<<locked>>82%56,840 psi89%2828 fps99.9%
IMR 4350<<locked>>92%57,174 psi90%2874 fps99.7%
IMR 4451 Enduron<<locked>>88%57,638 psi90%2867 fps99.9%
IMR 4831<<locked>>92%56,420 psi88%2877 fps100%
IMR 4895<<locked>>82%57,392 psi90%2874 fps100%
IMR 4955 Enduron<<locked>>96%56,231 psi88%2871 fps98%
IMR 7828 SSCᴾ<<locked>>100%55,956 psi88%2976 fps98.6%
Lovex S062<<locked>>82%54,491 psi85%2779 fps100%
Lovex S065<<locked>>90%57,711 psi90%2858 fps100%
Lovex S070<<locked>>90%55,709 psi87%2854 fps99.9%
Lovex S071ᴾ<<locked>>100%47,935 psi75%2753 fps99.7%
Norma 203B<<locked>>82%55,187 psi86%2835 fps100%
Norma 204<<locked>>90%54,418 psi85%2877 fps98.9%
Norma MRP<<locked>>98%57,725 psi90%3022 fps100%
Norma URP<<locked>>90%54,781 psi86%2874 fps100%
Ramshot Big Game<<locked>>82%56,275 psi88%2864 fps100%
Ramshot Grandᴾ<<locked>>100%56,739 psi89%2995 fps98.9%
Ramshot Hunter<<locked>>92%57,290 psi90%2933 fps100%
Ramshot Magnumᴾ<<locked>>100%50,676 psi79%2867 fps99.3%
ReloadSwiss RS 14ᴾ<<locked>>100%37,217 psi58%1804 fps100%
ReloadSwiss RS 50<<locked>>84%56,840 psi89%2851 fps100%
ReloadSwiss RS 60<<locked>>84%54,128 psi85%2900 fps100%
ReloadSwiss RS 62<<locked>>90%56,144 psi88%2913 fps100%
ReloadSwiss RS 70<<locked>>90%54,534 psi85%2943 fps100%
ReloadSwiss RS 76ᴾ<<locked>>100%46,325 psi73%2894 fps99.5%
Rottweil R 902<<locked>>82%56,405 psi88%2789 fps100%
Rottweil R 903<<locked>>86%56,797 psi89%2838 fps100%
Rottweil R 904<<locked>>94%55,085 psi86%2858 fps98.3%
Rottweil R 905<<locked>>96%55,941 psi88%2920 fps99.3%
Rottweil R 907<<locked>>88%55,956 psi88%2838 fps99.6%
Shooters World Long Rifle<<locked>>90%57,711 psi90%2858 fps100%
Shooters World Precision<<locked>>82%54,491 psi85%2779 fps100%
Shooters World SW4350<<locked>>90%55,709 psi87%2854 fps99.9%
SNPE Vectan SP 11<<locked>>84%54,853 psi86%2851 fps100%
SNPE Vectan Tubal 5000<<locked>>86%57,479 psi90%2717 fps100%
SNPE Vectan Tubal 7000<<locked>>90%57,479 psi90%2818 fps99.9%
SNPE Vectan Tubal 8000<<locked>>96%55,463 psi87%2917 fps99.3%
Somchem S355<<locked>>86%56,753 psi89%2838 fps100%
Somchem S361<<locked>>94%56,811 psi89%2854 fps97.9%
Somchem S365<<locked>>92%54,389 psi85%2874 fps100%
Somchem S385<<locked>>96%56,405 psi88%2890 fps99.7%
Vihtavuori N135<<locked>>82%56,971 psi89%2743 fps100%
Vihtavuori N140<<locked>>82%57,087 psi89%2759 fps100%
Vihtavuori N150<<locked>>86%54,447 psi85%2759 fps100%
Vihtavuori N160<<locked>>90%56,898 psi89%2867 fps100%
Vihtavuori N165ᴾ<<locked>>100%55,680 psi87%2867 fps99.5%
Vihtavuori N540<<locked>>82%55,129 psi86%2756 fps100%
Vihtavuori N550<<locked>>90%55,956 psi88%2874 fps100%
Vihtavuori N555<<locked>>98%57,188 psi90%2936 fps100%
Vihtavuori N560<<locked>>96%53,896 psi84%2953 fps97.9%
Vihtavuori N565ᴾ<<locked>>100%49,269 psi77%2861 fps97.2%
Winchester 6.5 StaBALL<<locked>>90%56,565 psi89%2828 fps100%
Winchester 760<<locked>>88%54,679 psi86%2890 fps99.8%
Winchester StaBALL HDᴾ<<locked>>100%50,865 psi80%2986 fps100%
Winchester Supreme 780<<locked>>98%56,695 psi89%2890 fps99.3%

Recommended = one of the top powders for this cartridge and bullet combination.

Start Load - Barrel Length: 25.6"

PowderChargeFRMaxP%V(0)z
Accurate 2495<<locked>>80%53,940 psi85%2707 fps100%
Accurate 2700<<locked>>80%51,909 psi81%2740 fps99.1%
Accurate 3100<<locked>>82%30,951 psi49%2402 fps95.8%
Accurate 4064<<locked>>80%51,227 psi80%2717 fps100%
Accurate 4350<<locked>>80%39,523 psi62%2608 fps99.5%
Accurate High Country83.2 gr88%41,771 psi65%2746 fps95.6%
Accurate MAGPRO<<locked>>92%45,498 psi71%2808 fps95.2%
ADI AR 2208<<locked>>80%48,501 psi76%2707 fps100%
ADI AR 2209<<locked>>84%38,305 psi60%2598 fps95.4%
ADI AR 2213<<locked>>90%41,785 psi65%2700 fps95.1%
ADI AR 2225<<locked>>96%32,880 psi52%2536 fps95.1%
Alliant Reloder- TS 15.5<<locked>>80%49,110 psi77%2726 fps100%
Alliant Reloder-15<<locked>>80%52,446 psi82%2799 fps100%
Alliant Reloder-16<<locked>>80%38,435 psi60%2625 fps99.6%
Alliant Reloder-17<<locked>>80%44,048 psi69%2743 fps100%
Alliant Reloder-19<<locked>>84%38,101 psi60%2592 fps95.5%
Alliant Reloder-22<<locked>>88%38,363 psi60%2641 fps95.8%
Alliant Reloder-23<<locked>>80%28,036 psi44%2379 fps98.1%
Alliant Reloder-25<<locked>>86%29,892 psi47%2448 fps95.8%
Alliant Reloder-26<<locked>>80%30,168 psi47%2497 fps96.9%
Baschieri & Pellagri 109<<locked>>98%53,998 psi85%2848 fps95%
Bofors RP15<<locked>>90%38,014 psi60%2631 fps95.4%
Bofors RP3<<locked>>80%49,545 psi78%2740 fps100%
Bofors RP30<<locked>>98%40,234 psi63%2717 fps95.6%
Bofors RP5<<locked>>88%38,363 psi60%2641 fps95.8%
Bofors RP7<<locked>>80%43,410 psi68%2625 fps97.9%
Hodgdon H1000<<locked>>96%40,872 psi64%2677 fps95.7%
Hodgdon H380<<locked>>80%49,879 psi78%2759 fps100%
Hodgdon H414<<locked>>80%41,611 psi65%2661 fps98.1%
Hodgdon H4350<<locked>>80%44,556 psi70%2680 fps97.6%
Hodgdon H4831<<locked>>90%44,672 psi70%2707 fps95.3%
Hodgdon H4831 SC<<locked>>90%43,859 psi69%2690 fps95.1%
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V<<locked>>80%35,926 psi56%2510 fps99.8%
Hodgdon Retumbo<<locked>>94%38,014 psi60%2710 fps96.2%
Hodgdon Superformance<<locked>>80%40,625 psi64%2677 fps97.6%
Hodgdon TrailBoss<<locked>>80%27,253 psi43%1575 fps100%
IMR 4064<<locked>>80%51,039 psi80%2736 fps100%
IMR 4166 Enduron<<locked>>80%53,185 psi83%2772 fps99.6%
IMR 4350<<locked>>80%39,015 psi61%2552 fps96.9%
IMR 4451 Enduron<<locked>>80%44,802 psi70%2651 fps98.6%
IMR 4831<<locked>>80%37,927 psi59%2562 fps99.3%
IMR 4895<<locked>>80%53,809 psi84%2825 fps100%
IMR 4955 Enduron<<locked>>88%43,642 psi68%2651 fps95.2%
IMR 7828 SSC<<locked>>92%42,728 psi67%2733 fps95.5%
Lovex S062<<locked>>80%51,111 psi80%2730 fps100%
Lovex S065<<locked>>80%42,192 psi66%2602 fps99.1%
Lovex S070<<locked>>80%40,451 psi63%2585 fps98%
Lovex S071<<locked>>86%30,240 psi47%2382 fps95.4%
Norma 203B<<locked>>80%51,764 psi81%2782 fps100%
Norma 204<<locked>>80%38,595 psi60%2582 fps95.4%
Norma MRP77.6 gr82%32,663 psi51%2530 fps95%
Norma URP<<locked>>80%39,291 psi62%2605 fps99.4%
Ramshot Big Game<<locked>>80%52,431 psi82%2808 fps100%
Ramshot Grand<<locked>>92%42,351 psi66%2740 fps95.8%
Ramshot Hunter<<locked>>80%38,218 psi60%2595 fps98%
Ramshot Magnum<<locked>>90%34,896 psi55%2552 fps95.2%
ReloadSwiss RS 14<<locked>>80%27,804 psi44%1614 fps100%
ReloadSwiss RS 50<<locked>>80%49,777 psi78%2743 fps99.6%
ReloadSwiss RS 60<<locked>>80%46,862 psi73%2792 fps100%
ReloadSwiss RS 62<<locked>>80%39,494 psi62%2631 fps99.3%
ReloadSwiss RS 70<<locked>>80%38,101 psi60%2641 fps99%
ReloadSwiss RS 76<<locked>>92%34,708 psi54%2621 fps96%
Rottweil R 902<<locked>>80%52,881 psi83%2740 fps100%
Rottweil R 903<<locked>>80%46,572 psi73%2687 fps100%
Rottweil R 904<<locked>>86%42,598 psi67%2638 fps95.6%
Rottweil R 905<<locked>>84%37,260 psi58%2575 fps95.4%
Rottweil R 907<<locked>>80%43,410 psi68%2625 fps97.9%
Shooters World Long Rifle<<locked>>80%42,192 psi66%2602 fps99.1%
Shooters World Precision<<locked>>80%51,111 psi80%2730 fps100%
Shooters World SW4350<<locked>>80%40,451 psi63%2585 fps98%
SNPE Vectan SP 11<<locked>>80%48,095 psi75%2746 fps100%
SNPE Vectan Tubal 5000<<locked>>80%47,761 psi75%2585 fps100%
SNPE Vectan Tubal 7000<<locked>>80%41,365 psi65%2549 fps98%
SNPE Vectan Tubal 8000<<locked>>84%36,927 psi58%2569 fps95.3%
Somchem S355<<locked>>80%46,760 psi73%2684 fps100%
Somchem S361<<locked>>88%46,427 psi73%2684 fps95.8%
Somchem S365<<locked>>80%35,853 psi56%2559 fps100%
Somchem S385<<locked>>82%35,244 psi55%2500 fps95.6%
Vihtavuori N135<<locked>>80%53,534 psi84%2697 fps100%
Vihtavuori N140<<locked>>80%53,563 psi84%2713 fps100%
Vihtavuori N150<<locked>>80%44,730 psi70%2615 fps100%
Vihtavuori N160<<locked>>80%40,727 psi64%2602 fps99.5%
Vihtavuori N165<<locked>>86%34,896 psi55%2487 fps95%
Vihtavuori N540<<locked>>80%51,822 psi81%2710 fps100%
Vihtavuori N550<<locked>>80%40,161 psi63%2605 fps99.4%
Vihtavuori N555<<locked>>80%31,198 psi49%2454 fps98.1%
Vihtavuori N56085.1 gr90%43,642 psi68%2766 fps95.4%
Vihtavuori N565<<locked>>96%42,902 psi67%2743 fps95.5%
Winchester 6.5 StaBALL<<locked>>80%39,769 psi62%2569 fps100%
Winchester 760<<locked>>80%41,771 psi65%2664 fps98.1%
Winchester StaBALL HD<<locked>>80%24,700 psi39%2362 fps97.5%
Winchester Supreme 780<<locked>>86%37,014 psi58%2539 fps95.1%

Recommended = one of the top powders for this cartridge and bullet combination.

ᴾ possible press load - work up slowly to this load while watching for signs of excessive pressure.

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This overview compares 92 powders for 8.5 mm Messner Mag. loaded with the .338 | 225gr | Hornady InterLock. Norma MRP delivers the highest muzzle velocity at 3,022 fps; across all powders the maximum-charge window runs from 1,762 fps to 3,022 fps. ADI AR 2225 gives the best case fill at 100 %, and 92 of the 92 powders fall inside the usable 80–100 % fill window.

Relative to the caliber's maximum pressure (440 MPa), the top charges use 57–90 %, leaving at least 10 % headroom. The 225.0 gr projectile in 0.338" calls for a 1:16.5 twist; slower twists will usually not stabilise this weight. ADI AR 2225, Alliant Reloder-23, Alliant Reloder-25 reach 100 % fill or more at maximum charge, so these are compressed loads: they need a long drop tube to seat cleanly and react sensitively to the case capacity of your own brass lot. Accurate High Country, Norma MRP, Vihtavuori N560 rank at the top here: for 8.5 mm Messner Mag. with the .338 | 225gr | Hornady InterLock they combine a high case fill with complete burn and sit in the upper velocity band. Always begin at the start load and work up in small increments while checking case and primer for pressure signs.

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