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Load data for 8.5 mm Messner Magnum + .338 | 200gr | Frontier PH HPFB

Recommended Powder(s): Alliant Reloder-16, Hodgdon Superperformance, Ramshot Hunter, ReloadSwiss RS 62, ReloadSwiss RS 70

8.5 mm Messner Magnum + .338 | 200gr | Frontier PH HPFB

Load Specifications

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Bullet:
.338 | 200gr | Frontier PH HPFB
Bullet Weight:
200gr | 13.0g
Bullet Diameter:
0.338" | 8.59mm
Bullet Length:
1.313" | 33.4mm
Caliber:
8.5 mm Messner Magnum load data
Case Length (l3):
2.508" | 63.7mm
Cartridge Length (C.O.L.):
3.413" | 86.7mm
Seated Depth:
0.408" | 10.4mm
Shank Seated Depth:
0.408" | 10.4mm
Case Capacity:
106.0 Grains of Water | 6.88 cm³
Primer Size:
Large Rifle Magnum (LRM)
Max. allowed Pressure:
63817 psi | 4400 bar
LID:
LID_B10416_C1203
Last updated:
2025-01-01

Load data for 164 loads in caliber 8.5 mm Messner Magnum with .338 | 200gr | Frontier PH HPFB bullet and 82 powders such as Alliant Reloder-16, Hodgdon Superperformance, Ramshot Hunter, ReloadSwiss RS 62, ReloadSwiss RS 70. The key underlying parameters are shown in the table above.

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Powder
Charge
FR
MaxP
%
V(0)
z
ADI AR 2208
<<locked>>
87%
57043
89%
**40
100%
ADI AR 2209
<<locked>>
97%
54012
85%
**79
97%
[ADI AR 2213]*
<<locked>>
97%
48327
76%
**90
94%
Accurate 2700
<<locked>>
88%
57130
90%
**97
99%
Accurate 3100
<<locked>>
97%
47485
74%
**25
98%
Accurate 4064
<<locked>>
86%
57334
90%
**17
100%
Accurate 4350
<<locked>>
93%
57305
90%
**02
100%
[Accurate MAGPRO]*
<<locked>>
97%
46557
73%
**84
92%
Alliant Reloder- TS 15.5
<<locked>>
87%
57406
90%
**53
100%
Alliant Reloder-15
<<locked>>
85%
57101
89%
**66
100%
Alliant Reloder-16 👍
<<locked>>
95%
56797
89%
**48
100%
Alliant Reloder-17
<<locked>>
90%
57203
90%
**64
100%
Alliant Reloder-19
<<locked>>
97%
53563
84%
**69
97%
Alliant Reloder-22
<<locked>>
97%
47152
74%
**00
96%
Alliant Reloder-23
<<locked>>
97%
44976
70%
**51
100%
Alliant Reloder-25
<<locked>>
97%
38957
61%
**53
97%
Alliant Reloder-26
<<locked>>
97%
50459
79%
**35
100%
Hodgdon CFE223
<<locked>>
85%
57363
90%
**12
100%
Hodgdon H380
<<locked>>
86%
56782
89%
**56
100%
Hodgdon H414
<<locked>>
89%
57188
90%
**28
99%
Hodgdon H4350
<<locked>>
96%
57406
90%
**66
99%
[Hodgdon H4831]*
<<locked>>
97%
44701
70%
**79
93%
[Hodgdon H4831 SC]*
<<locked>>
97%
50546
79%
**94
94%
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V
<<locked>>
96%
56971
89%
**63
100%
Hodgdon LVR
<<locked>>
91%
56898
89%
**02
100%
Hodgdon Superperformance 👍
<<locked>>
92%
57087
89%
**54
99%
Hodgdon VARGET
<<locked>>
87%
56898
89%
**30
100%
Hodgdon TrailBoss
<<locked>>
97%
34708
54%
**01
100%
IMR 3031
<<locked>>
84%
57159
90%
**20
100%
IMR 4064
<<locked>>
88%
56869
89%
**27
100%
IMR 4166 Enduron
<<locked>>
89%
56797
89%
**23
99%
IMR 4350
<<locked>>
94%
57217
90%
**69
99%
IMR 4451 Enduron
<<locked>>
90%
57130
90%
**53
99%
IMR 4831
<<locked>>
97%
54360
85%
**53
100%
IMR 4895
<<locked>>
84%
56710
89%
**72
100%
IMR 4955 Enduron
<<locked>>
97%
50444
79%
**54
95%
IMR 7828 SSC
<<locked>>
97%
49763
78%
**40
95%
Lovex S062
<<locked>>
86%
57145
90%
**23
100%
Lovex S065
<<locked>>
92%
56724
89%
**33
100%
Lovex S070
<<locked>>
93%
56927
89%
**66
99%
Lovex S071
<<locked>>
97%
39421
62%
**74
97%
Norma 203B
<<locked>>
85%
57014
89%
**63
100%
Norma 204
<<locked>>
94%
57072
89%
**05
98%
Norma MRP
<<locked>>
97%
50241
79%
**86
98%
Norma URP
<<locked>>
94%
57319
90%
**12
100%
Ramshot Big Game
<<locked>>
85%
56898
89%
**76
100%
Ramshot Hunter 👍
<<locked>>
94%
56826
89%
**25
100%
Ramshot Magnum
<<locked>>
97%
45847
72%
**54
96%
ReloadSwiss RS 14
<<locked>>
96%
35201
55%
**41
100%
ReloadSwiss RS 50
<<locked>>
86%
57246
90%
**49
99%
ReloadSwiss RS 52
<<locked>>
85%
57000
89%
**79
100%
ReloadSwiss RS 60
<<locked>>
91%
57087
89%
**84
100%
ReloadSwiss RS 62 👍
<<locked>>
93%
56869
89%
**22
100%
ReloadSwiss RS 70 👍
<<locked>>
94%
57043
89%
**77
100%
[ReloadSwiss RS 76]*
<<locked>>
97%
37637
59%
**43
94%
Rottweil R 902
<<locked>>
85%
57348
90%
**07
100%
Rottweil R 903
<<locked>>
88%
57159
90%
**49
100%
Rottweil R 904
<<locked>>
97%
56014
88%
**56
97%
Rottweil R 905
<<locked>>
97%
52431
82%
**53
97%
Rottweil R 907
<<locked>>
91%
56898
89%
**40
99%
SNPE Vectan SP 11
<<locked>>
88%
57392
90%
**95
100%
SNPE Vectan Tubal 5000
<<locked>>
88%
56913
89%
**15
100%
SNPE Vectan Tubal 7000
<<locked>>
92%
57276
90%
**07
99%
Shooters World Long Rifle
<<locked>>
92%
56724
89%
**33
100%
Shooters World Precision
<<locked>>
86%
57145
90%
**23
100%
Somchem S355
<<locked>>
88%
57058
89%
**46
100%
Somchem S361
<<locked>>
96%
56797
89%
**27
96%
Somchem S365
<<locked>>
96%
56855
89%
**15
100%
Somchem S385
<<locked>>
97%
52997
83%
**23
98%
Vihtavuori N133
<<locked>>
84%
56942
89%
**05
100%
Vihtavuori N135
<<locked>>
90%
57130
90%
**61
100%
Vihtavuori N140
<<locked>>
85%
57087
89%
**71
100%
Vihtavuori N150
<<locked>>
94%
57087
89%
**00
100%
Vihtavuori N160
<<locked>>
91%
57116
90%
**63
100%
Vihtavuori N165
<<locked>>
97%
44179
69%
**53
96%
Vihtavuori N540
<<locked>>
85%
57363
90%
**10
100%
Vihtavuori N550
<<locked>>
91%
57305
90%
**15
100%
Vihtavuori N555
<<locked>>
97%
50256
79%
**36
100%
[Vihtavuori N560]*
<<locked>>
97%
47819
75%
**17
94%
Winchester 6.5 StaBALL
<<locked>>
93%
56971
89%
**36
100%
Winchester 760
<<locked>>
89%
57188
90%
**28
99%
Winchester StaBALL HD
<<locked>>
97%
38276
60%
**81
100%

Max Load - Barrel Length: 23.60''

Powder
Charge
FR
MaxP
%
V(0)
z
ADI AR 2208
<<locked>>
81%
46789
73%
**69
100%
[ADI AR 2209]*
<<locked>>
82%
33823
53%
**43
90%
[ADI AR 2213]*
<<locked>>
90%
38435
60%
**77
90%
Accurate 2700
<<locked>>
81%
45368
71%
**97
96%
[Accurate 3100]*
<<locked>>
81%
27557
43%
**69
91%
Accurate 4064
<<locked>>
81%
49676
78%
**02
100%
Accurate 4350
<<locked>>
81%
37710
59%
**51
98%
[Accurate MAGPRO]*
<<locked>>
94%
42192
66%
**99
90%
Alliant Reloder- TS 15.5
<<locked>>
81%
47500
74%
**95
100%
Alliant Reloder-15
<<locked>>
81%
50604
79%
**61
100%
Alliant Reloder-16
<<locked>>
81%
36840
58%
**61
98%
Alliant Reloder-17
<<locked>>
81%
41814
66%
**99
100%
[Alliant Reloder-19]*
<<locked>>
82%
33156
52%
**30
90%
[Alliant Reloder-22]*
<<locked>>
86%
33243
52%
**72
90%
Alliant Reloder-23
<<locked>>
81%
27021
42%
**08
95%
[Alliant Reloder-25]*
<<locked>>
85%
27282
43%
**02
90%
[Alliant Reloder-26]*
<<locked>>
81%
28558
45%
**93
92%
Hodgdon CFE223
<<locked>>
81%
49734
78%
**84
100%
Hodgdon H380
<<locked>>
81%
48022
75%
**18
99%
Hodgdon H414
<<locked>>
81%
43279
68%
**72
97%
[Hodgdon H4350]*
<<locked>>
81%
35708
56%
**46
93%
[Hodgdon H4831]*
<<locked>>
92%
38928
61%
**48
90%
[Hodgdon H4831 SC]*
<<locked>>
89%
38928
61%
**48
90%
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V
<<locked>>
81%
34330
54%
**52
98%
Hodgdon LVR
<<locked>>
81%
40553
64%
**07
98%
Hodgdon Superperformance
<<locked>>
81%
38812
61%
**03
95%
Hodgdon VARGET
<<locked>>
81%
46659
73%
**59
100%
Hodgdon TrailBoss
<<locked>>
81%
27673
43%
**50
100%
IMR 3031
<<locked>>
81%
52054
82%
**44
100%
IMR 4064
<<locked>>
81%
46122
72%
**49
100%
IMR 4166 Enduron
<<locked>>
81%
45208
71%
**13
97%
[IMR 4350]*
<<locked>>
81%
37637
59%
**98
94%
IMR 4451 Enduron
<<locked>>
81%
43540
68%
**07
96%
IMR 4831
<<locked>>
81%
32793
51%
**20
96%
IMR 4895
<<locked>>
81%
51822
81%
**97
100%
[IMR 4955 Enduron]*
<<locked>>
87%
37550
59%
**85
90%
[IMR 7828 SSC]*
<<locked>>
89%
38247
60%
**87
90%
Lovex S062
<<locked>>
81%
49342
77%
**05
100%
Lovex S065
<<locked>>
81%
40930
64%
**54
97%
Lovex S070
<<locked>>
81%
39059
61%
**35
96%
[Lovex S071]*
<<locked>>
84%
26411
41%
**33
90%
Norma 203B
<<locked>>
81%
49966
78%
**48
100%
[Norma 204]*
<<locked>>
81%
36811
58%
**05
92%
[Norma MRP]*
<<locked>>
82%
30255
47%
**10
90%
Norma URP
<<locked>>
81%
37550
59%
**51
98%
Ramshot Big Game
<<locked>>
81%
50328
79%
**81
100%
Ramshot Hunter
<<locked>>
81%
36376
57%
**28
95%
[Ramshot Magnum]*
<<locked>>
87%
32285
51%
**26
90%
ReloadSwiss RS 14
<<locked>>
81%
28123
44%
**90
100%
ReloadSwiss RS 50
<<locked>>
81%
48298
76%
**99
98%
ReloadSwiss RS 52
<<locked>>
81%
49719
78%
**64
100%
ReloadSwiss RS 60
<<locked>>
81%
40335
63%
**82
100%
ReloadSwiss RS 62
<<locked>>
81%
37507
59%
**64
97%
ReloadSwiss RS 70
<<locked>>
81%
36550
57%
**74
97%
[ReloadSwiss RS 76]*
<<locked>>
93%
32735
51%
**95
90%
Rottweil R 902
<<locked>>
81%
51401
81%
**22
100%
Rottweil R 903
<<locked>>
81%
44991
70%
**53
100%
[Rottweil R 904]*
<<locked>>
83%
36027
56%
**56
90%
[Rottweil R 905]*
<<locked>>
82%
32590
51%
**26
90%
Rottweil R 907
<<locked>>
81%
42090
66%
**77
96%
SNPE Vectan SP 11
<<locked>>
81%
46035
72%
**05
100%
SNPE Vectan Tubal 5000
<<locked>>
81%
46412
73%
**67
100%
SNPE Vectan Tubal 7000
<<locked>>
81%
39943
63%
**92
96%
Shooters World Long Rifle
<<locked>>
81%
40930
64%
**54
97%
Shooters World Precision
<<locked>>
81%
49342
77%
**05
100%
Somchem S355
<<locked>>
81%
45237
71%
**49
100%
[Somchem S361]*
<<locked>>
85%
38406
60%
**85
90%
Somchem S365
<<locked>>
81%
33924
53%
**02
99%
[Somchem S385]*
<<locked>>
81%
31531
49%
**67
91%
Vihtavuori N133
<<locked>>
81%
51982
81%
**40
100%
Vihtavuori N135
<<locked>>
81%
43903
69%
**64
100%
Vihtavuori N140
<<locked>>
81%
51169
80%
**85
100%
Vihtavuori N150
<<locked>>
81%
38841
61%
**95
100%
Vihtavuori N160
<<locked>>
81%
40698
64%
**77
98%
[Vihtavuori N165]*
<<locked>>
86%
31125
49%
**51
90%
Vihtavuori N540
<<locked>>
81%
50836
80%
**05
100%
Vihtavuori N550
<<locked>>
81%
41060
64%
**20
98%
Vihtavuori N555
<<locked>>
81%
29573
46%
**80
95%
[Vihtavuori N560]*
<<locked>>
90%
38479
60%
**17
90%
Winchester 6.5 StaBALL
<<locked>>
81%
38305
60%
**18
99%
Winchester 760
<<locked>>
81%
43279
68%
**72
97%
[Winchester StaBALL HD]*
<<locked>>
81%
23670
37%
**43
92%

Start Load - Barrel Length: 23.60''

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FR ... fill rate of the cartridge in percent

MaxP ... max. pressure of load in psi or bar

% ... max. pressure of load in percent of the maximum allowed pressure for this caliber 

V(0) ... muzzle velocity in feet per second (fps) or  meters per second (m/s)

z ... powder burnt in percent

[...] *... not dangerous but load has suboptimal powder burnt with possible characteristics such as extensive muzzle flash or inaccurate loads.

[...] ²... fill rate low - you might want to consider using a filler to ensure proper ignition.

[...] ᴾ... possible press load - work up slowly to this load while watching for signs of excessive pressure.

👍  ... recommended powder/load for this caliber and bullet combination based on its ballistic performance.

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