
Load Specifications
Load data in caliber 8 x 65 RS with .323 | 200gr | Barnes X S bullet and 95 powders. The key underlying parameters are shown in the table above. The recommended powders for this cartridge and bullet combination are ReloadSwiss RS 60, Alliant Reloder-17 and Alliant Power Pro 2000-MR.
Important Notice: DO NOT go below Minimum Charge or above Maximum Charge. Since we have no control over the equipment and components used, any responsibility and liability for the results achieved is rejected.
Only powders/loads that match the current filter criteria are displayed: max pressure of a load ≤ 90% of max. standardized pressure, fill rate ≥ 80% and propellant combustion ≥ 95%. Use the sliders above the tables to adjust these thresholds.
Charge: Powder weight in grains. Start with the minimum load and work up carefully.
FR (Fill Rate): Case fill as a percentage. Values above 100% mean compressed loads.
MaxP / %: Maximum chamber pressure in bar and as a percentage of the standardized maximum for this caliber.
V(0): Muzzle velocity in feet per second (fps) at the standardized barrel length.
z (Powder Burn): Estimated propellant combustion percentage at bullet exit.
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Max Load - Barrel Length: 25.6"
| Powder | Charge | FR | MaxP | % | V(0) | z |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Accurate 2015 | <<locked>> | 84% | 52,533 psi | 89% | 2497 fps | 100% |
| Accurate 2495 | <<locked>> | 88% | 51,300 psi | 87% | 2526 fps | 100% |
| Accurate 2520 | <<locked>> | 84% | 51,866 psi | 88% | 2572 fps | 100% |
| Accurate 2700 | <<locked>> | 90% | 52,997 psi | 90% | 2539 fps | 95.9% |
| Accurate 4064 | <<locked>> | 90% | 51,039 psi | 87% | 2566 fps | 100% |
| Accurate 4350ᴾ | <<locked>> | 100% | 51,982 psi | 88% | 2664 fps | 99.1% |
| ADI AR 2206H | <<locked>> | 86% | 50,850 psi | 87% | 2575 fps | 99.6% |
| ADI AR 2208 | <<locked>> | 92% | 51,358 psi | 87% | 2572 fps | 99.3% |
| ADI Benchmark 8208 | <<locked>> | 86% | 52,968 psi | 90% | 2579 fps | 100% |
| Alliant AR-Comp | <<locked>> | 84% | 50,299 psi | 86% | 2520 fps | 100% |
| Alliant Power Pro 2000-MR | <<locked>> | 90% | 52,721 psi | 90% | 2720 fps | 99.5% |
| Alliant Reloder- TS 15.5 | <<locked>> | 92% | 51,285 psi | 87% | 2598 fps | 99.9% |
| Alliant Reloder-15 | <<locked>> | 90% | 51,938 psi | 88% | 2615 fps | 99.5% |
| Alliant Reloder-16ᴾ | <<locked>> | 100% | 50,386 psi | 86% | 2661 fps | 99.1% |
| Alliant Reloder-17 | <<locked>> | 96% | 51,213 psi | 87% | 2700 fps | 99.9% |
| Alliant Reloder-23ᴾ | <<locked>> | 100% | 36,579 psi | 62% | 2428 fps | 97.5% |
| Alliant Reloder-26ᴾ | <<locked>> | 100% | 40,132 psi | 68% | 2556 fps | 96.1% |
| Baschieri & Pellagri 107 | <<locked>> | 86% | 49,922 psi | 85% | 2585 fps | 98.9% |
| Bofors RP3 | <<locked>> | 92% | 51,967 psi | 88% | 2615 fps | 100% |
| Bofors RP7 | <<locked>> | 96% | 52,170 psi | 89% | 2572 fps | 96% |
| Hodgdon Benchmark | <<locked>> | 84% | 52,098 psi | 89% | 2523 fps | 100% |
| Hodgdon BL-C2 | <<locked>> | 86% | 52,185 psi | 89% | 2612 fps | 100% |
| Hodgdon CFE223 | <<locked>> | 82% | 49,951 psi | 85% | 2641 fps | 99.3% |
| Hodgdon H380 | <<locked>> | 92% | 52,765 psi | 90% | 2618 fps | 98.8% |
| Hodgdon H414 | <<locked>> | 98% | 51,329 psi | 87% | 2654 fps | 96.7% |
| Hodgdon H4895 | <<locked>> | 86% | 51,256 psi | 87% | 2585 fps | 99.8% |
| Hodgdon Hybrid 100Vᴾ | <<locked>> | 100% | 46,702 psi | 80% | 2552 fps | 99.5% |
| Hodgdon LEVERevolution | <<locked>> | 90% | 52,895 psi | 90% | 2661 fps | 100% |
| Hodgdon Superformance | <<locked>> | 98% | 52,112 psi | 89% | 2680 fps | 96.1% |
| Hodgdon TrailBossᴾ | <<locked>> | 100% | 35,578 psi | 61% | 1568 fps | 100% |
| Hodgdon VARGET | <<locked>> | 88% | 52,286 psi | 89% | 2589 fps | 99.9% |
| IMR 3031 | <<locked>> | 86% | 50,908 psi | 87% | 2575 fps | 100% |
| IMR 4064 | <<locked>> | 90% | 51,271 psi | 87% | 2559 fps | 99.4% |
| IMR 4166 Enduron | <<locked>> | 88% | 51,459 psi | 88% | 2533 fps | 96.5% |
| IMR 4350ᴾ | <<locked>> | 100% | 51,619 psi | 88% | 2589 fps | 96% |
| IMR 4451 Enduron | <<locked>> | 94% | 50,763 psi | 86% | 2556 fps | 96.3% |
| IMR 4831ᴾ | <<locked>> | 100% | 49,095 psi | 84% | 2605 fps | 98.8% |
| IMR 4895 | <<locked>> | 88% | 50,053 psi | 85% | 2595 fps | 99.6% |
| IMR 8208 XBR | <<locked>> | 86% | 52,968 psi | 90% | 2579 fps | 100% |
| Lovex D073.6 | <<locked>> | 86% | 50,517 psi | 86% | 2562 fps | 100% |
| Lovex S060 | <<locked>> | 86% | 51,010 psi | 87% | 2513 fps | 99.6% |
| Lovex S062 | <<locked>> | 90% | 51,285 psi | 87% | 2562 fps | 100% |
| Lovex S065 | <<locked>> | 98% | 53,156 psi | 90% | 2598 fps | 98.1% |
| Lovex S070 | <<locked>> | 98% | 50,676 psi | 86% | 2582 fps | 96.7% |
| Norma 201 | <<locked>> | 86% | 50,343 psi | 86% | 2533 fps | 99.9% |
| Norma 202 | <<locked>> | 86% | 50,357 psi | 86% | 2539 fps | 100% |
| Norma 203B | <<locked>> | 90% | 51,126 psi | 87% | 2602 fps | 99.6% |
| Norma URPᴾ | <<locked>> | 100% | 50,966 psi | 87% | 2651 fps | 98.9% |
| Ramshot Big Game | <<locked>> | 90% | 50,865 psi | 87% | 2621 fps | 99.6% |
| Ramshot Hunterᴾ | <<locked>> | 100% | 50,096 psi | 85% | 2641 fps | 97.3% |
| Ramshot TAC | <<locked>> | 84% | 50,024 psi | 85% | 2543 fps | 97.8% |
| Ramshot Wild Boar | <<locked>> | 86% | 52,779 psi | 90% | 2612 fps | 99.7% |
| Ramshot X-Terminator | <<locked>> | 82% | 50,952 psi | 87% | 2533 fps | 99.5% |
| ReloadSwiss RS 14ᴾ | <<locked>> | 100% | 35,926 psi | 61% | 1604 fps | 100% |
| ReloadSwiss RS 40 | <<locked>> | 82% | 52,649 psi | 90% | 2559 fps | 100% |
| ReloadSwiss RS 50 | <<locked>> | 92% | 53,026 psi | 90% | 2595 fps | 97.5% |
| ReloadSwiss RS 52 | <<locked>> | 88% | 51,532 psi | 88% | 2671 fps | 99.5% |
| ReloadSwiss RS 60 | <<locked>> | 94% | 50,923 psi | 87% | 2703 fps | 100% |
| ReloadSwiss RS 62ᴾ | <<locked>> | 100% | 51,111 psi | 87% | 2680 fps | 98.8% |
| ReloadSwiss RS 70ᴾ | <<locked>> | 100% | 51,416 psi | 88% | 2694 fps | 98.4% |
| Rottweil R 901 | <<locked>> | 84% | 52,243 psi | 89% | 2526 fps | 100% |
| Rottweil R 902 | <<locked>> | 88% | 50,821 psi | 87% | 2533 fps | 100% |
| Rottweil R 903 | <<locked>> | 94% | 51,866 psi | 88% | 2605 fps | 99.9% |
| Rottweil R 907 | <<locked>> | 96% | 52,170 psi | 89% | 2572 fps | 96% |
| Shooters World Long Rifle | <<locked>> | 98% | 53,156 psi | 90% | 2598 fps | 98.1% |
| Shooters World Match Rifle | <<locked>> | 86% | 50,517 psi | 86% | 2562 fps | 100% |
| Shooters World Precision | <<locked>> | 90% | 51,285 psi | 87% | 2562 fps | 100% |
| Shooters World SW4350 | <<locked>> | 98% | 50,676 psi | 86% | 2582 fps | 96.7% |
| SNPE Vectan SP 11 | <<locked>> | 94% | 52,605 psi | 90% | 2654 fps | 99.7% |
| SNPE Vectan SP 3 | <<locked>> | 86% | 51,605 psi | 88% | 2467 fps | 100% |
| SNPE Vectan SP 7 | <<locked>> | 86% | 51,924 psi | 88% | 2575 fps | 98.5% |
| SNPE Vectan SP 9 | <<locked>> | 88% | 52,214 psi | 89% | 2595 fps | 99.7% |
| SNPE Vectan Tubal 3000 | <<locked>> | 86% | 51,692 psi | 88% | 2477 fps | 100% |
| SNPE Vectan Tubal 5000 | <<locked>> | 92% | 51,227 psi | 87% | 2477 fps | 100% |
| SNPE Vectan Tubal 7000 | <<locked>> | 96% | 50,125 psi | 85% | 2507 fps | 96.2% |
| Somchem S321 | <<locked>> | 82% | 51,097 psi | 87% | 2566 fps | 100% |
| Somchem S335 | <<locked>> | 86% | 51,140 psi | 87% | 2480 fps | 100% |
| Somchem S341 | <<locked>> | 86% | 51,024 psi | 87% | 2566 fps | 99.5% |
| Somchem S355 | <<locked>> | 94% | 52,185 psi | 89% | 2602 fps | 99.9% |
| Somchem S365ᴾ | <<locked>> | 100% | 45,905 psi | 78% | 2608 fps | 100% |
| Vihtavuori N130 | <<locked>> | 82% | 51,605 psi | 88% | 2448 fps | 100% |
| Vihtavuori N133 | <<locked>> | 86% | 51,605 psi | 88% | 2467 fps | 100% |
| Vihtavuori N135 | <<locked>> | 90% | 52,968 psi | 90% | 2546 fps | 100% |
| Vihtavuori N140 | <<locked>> | 88% | 50,473 psi | 86% | 2516 fps | 100% |
| Vihtavuori N150 | <<locked>> | 96% | 53,098 psi | 90% | 2579 fps | 100% |
| Vihtavuori N160 | <<locked>> | 98% | 50,328 psi | 86% | 2598 fps | 98.7% |
| Vihtavuori N530 | <<locked>> | 84% | 50,560 psi | 86% | 2536 fps | 100% |
| Vihtavuori N540 | <<locked>> | 90% | 51,880 psi | 88% | 2559 fps | 100% |
| Vihtavuori N550ᴾ | <<locked>> | 100% | 52,692 psi | 90% | 2654 fps | 98.9% |
| Vihtavuori N555ᴾ | <<locked>> | 100% | 39,146 psi | 67% | 2500 fps | 97.5% |
| Winchester 6.5 StaBALL | <<locked>> | 98% | 50,966 psi | 87% | 2582 fps | 99.9% |
| Winchester 748 | <<locked>> | 86% | 52,750 psi | 90% | 2621 fps | 100% |
| Winchester 760 | <<locked>> | 98% | 51,329 psi | 87% | 2654 fps | 96.7% |
| Winchester StaBALL HDᴾ | <<locked>> | 100% | 33,025 psi | 56% | 2415 fps | 96.6% |
| Winchester StaBALL Match | <<locked>> | 88% | 51,750 psi | 88% | 2602 fps | 99.9% |
Recommended = one of the top powders for this cartridge and bullet combination.
Start Load - Barrel Length: 25.6"
| Powder | Charge | FR | MaxP | % | V(0) | z |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Accurate 2015 | <<locked>> | 80% | 46,746 psi | 80% | 2415 fps | 100% |
| Accurate 2495 | <<locked>> | 80% | 40,408 psi | 69% | 2362 fps | 100% |
| Accurate 2520 | <<locked>> | 80% | 45,658 psi | 78% | 2480 fps | 100% |
| Accurate 2700 | <<locked>> | 88% | 49,705 psi | 85% | 2490 fps | 95.1% |
| Accurate 4064 | <<locked>> | 80% | 38,130 psi | 65% | 2356 fps | 100% |
| Accurate 4350 | <<locked>> | 88% | 35,389 psi | 60% | 2372 fps | 95.6% |
| ADI AR 2206H | <<locked>> | 80% | 42,786 psi | 73% | 2441 fps | 98.6% |
| ADI AR 2208 | <<locked>> | 80% | 36,521 psi | 62% | 2303 fps | 96.4% |
| ADI Benchmark 8208 | <<locked>> | 80% | 44,628 psi | 76% | 2448 fps | 99.6% |
| Alliant AR-Comp | <<locked>> | 80% | 44,193 psi | 75% | 2434 fps | 100% |
| Alliant Power Pro 2000-MR | 46.5 gr | 80% | 38,464 psi | 65% | 2454 fps | 96.7% |
| Alliant Reloder- TS 15.5 | <<locked>> | 80% | 36,187 psi | 62% | 2329 fps | 98% |
| Alliant Reloder-15 | <<locked>> | 80% | 38,725 psi | 66% | 2382 fps | 97.3% |
| Alliant Reloder-16 | <<locked>> | 88% | 35,795 psi | 61% | 2375 fps | 95.5% |
| Alliant Reloder-17 | 45.8 gr | 80% | 31,328 psi | 53% | 2293 fps | 95.6% |
| Alliant Reloder-23 | <<locked>> | 94% | 31,096 psi | 53% | 2290 fps | 95.2% |
| Alliant Reloder-26 | <<locked>> | 98% | 37,608 psi | 64% | 2500 fps | 95.1% |
| Baschieri & Pellagri 107 | <<locked>> | 80% | 41,365 psi | 70% | 2438 fps | 97.4% |
| Bofors RP3 | <<locked>> | 80% | 35,795 psi | 61% | 2336 fps | 98.1% |
| Bofors RP7 | <<locked>> | 94% | 49,429 psi | 84% | 2530 fps | 95.4% |
| Hodgdon Benchmark | <<locked>> | 80% | 46,340 psi | 79% | 2434 fps | 99.9% |
| Hodgdon BL-C2 | <<locked>> | 80% | 43,076 psi | 73% | 2467 fps | 99.7% |
| Hodgdon CFE223 | <<locked>> | 80% | 46,717 psi | 80% | 2589 fps | 98.9% |
| Hodgdon H380 | <<locked>> | 80% | 36,622 psi | 62% | 2329 fps | 95.2% |
| Hodgdon H414 | <<locked>> | 94% | 45,295 psi | 77% | 2552 fps | 95.3% |
| Hodgdon H4895 | <<locked>> | 80% | 43,076 psi | 73% | 2451 fps | 99% |
| Hodgdon Hybrid 100V | <<locked>> | 86% | 31,183 psi | 53% | 2238 fps | 95.7% |
| Hodgdon LEVERevolution | <<locked>> | 80% | 38,696 psi | 66% | 2421 fps | 98.7% |
| Hodgdon Superformance | <<locked>> | 96% | 48,791 psi | 83% | 2625 fps | 95.3% |
| Hodgdon TrailBoss | <<locked>> | 80% | 26,585 psi | 45% | 1401 fps | 100% |
| Hodgdon VARGET | <<locked>> | 80% | 41,133 psi | 70% | 2402 fps | 98.7% |
| IMR 3031 | <<locked>> | 80% | 42,279 psi | 72% | 2448 fps | 100% |
| IMR 4064 | <<locked>> | 80% | 38,319 psi | 65% | 2333 fps | 97.2% |
| IMR 4166 Enduron | <<locked>> | 84% | 45,745 psi | 78% | 2438 fps | 95.2% |
| IMR 4350 | <<locked>> | 98% | 48,660 psi | 83% | 2543 fps | 95.3% |
| IMR 4451 Enduron | <<locked>> | 92% | 47,848 psi | 81% | 2507 fps | 95.6% |
| IMR 4831 | <<locked>> | 88% | 34,272 psi | 58% | 2329 fps | 95.2% |
| IMR 4895 | <<locked>> | 80% | 39,552 psi | 67% | 2411 fps | 98.1% |
| IMR 8208 XBR | <<locked>> | 80% | 44,628 psi | 76% | 2448 fps | 99.6% |
| Lovex D073.6 | <<locked>> | 80% | 41,843 psi | 71% | 2428 fps | 99.9% |
| Lovex S060 | <<locked>> | 80% | 42,931 psi | 73% | 2379 fps | 98.6% |
| Lovex S062 | <<locked>> | 80% | 38,493 psi | 66% | 2346 fps | 98.8% |
| Lovex S065 | <<locked>> | 88% | 40,132 psi | 68% | 2379 fps | 95.3% |
| Lovex S070 | <<locked>> | 94% | 45,266 psi | 77% | 2490 fps | 95.4% |
| Norma 201 | <<locked>> | 80% | 42,337 psi | 72% | 2402 fps | 99.4% |
| Norma 202 | <<locked>> | 80% | 42,279 psi | 72% | 2411 fps | 100% |
| Norma 203B | <<locked>> | 80% | 38,130 psi | 65% | 2372 fps | 97.7% |
| Norma URP | <<locked>> | 88% | 35,679 psi | 61% | 2369 fps | 95.4% |
| Ramshot Big Game | <<locked>> | 80% | 37,217 psi | 63% | 2379 fps | 97.2% |
| Ramshot Hunter | <<locked>> | 94% | 41,814 psi | 71% | 2497 fps | 95.2% |
| Ramshot TAC | <<locked>> | 80% | 44,382 psi | 76% | 2448 fps | 96.6% |
| Ramshot Wild Boar | <<locked>> | 80% | 43,714 psi | 74% | 2467 fps | 98.7% |
| Ramshot X-Terminator | <<locked>> | 80% | 47,877 psi | 82% | 2484 fps | 99.2% |
| ReloadSwiss RS 14 | <<locked>> | 80% | 27,006 psi | 46% | 1434 fps | 100% |
| ReloadSwiss RS 40 | <<locked>> | 80% | 49,574 psi | 84% | 2516 fps | 100% |
| ReloadSwiss RS 50 | <<locked>> | 86% | 44,179 psi | 75% | 2451 fps | 95.6% |
| ReloadSwiss RS 52 | <<locked>> | 80% | 39,827 psi | 68% | 2470 fps | 97.6% |
| ReloadSwiss RS 60 | 45.8 gr | 80% | 33,156 psi | 56% | 2352 fps | 98.8% |
| ReloadSwiss RS 62 | <<locked>> | 90% | 37,376 psi | 64% | 2431 fps | 95.7% |
| ReloadSwiss RS 70 | <<locked>> | 92% | 40,176 psi | 68% | 2487 fps | 95.5% |
| Rottweil R 901 | <<locked>> | 80% | 46,644 psi | 79% | 2441 fps | 100% |
| Rottweil R 902 | <<locked>> | 80% | 40,451 psi | 69% | 2359 fps | 99.1% |
| Rottweil R 903 | <<locked>> | 80% | 33,982 psi | 58% | 2287 fps | 97.2% |
| Rottweil R 907 | <<locked>> | 94% | 49,429 psi | 84% | 2530 fps | 95.4% |
| Shooters World Long Rifle | <<locked>> | 88% | 40,132 psi | 68% | 2379 fps | 95.3% |
| Shooters World Match Rifle | <<locked>> | 80% | 41,843 psi | 71% | 2428 fps | 99.9% |
| Shooters World Precision | <<locked>> | 80% | 38,493 psi | 66% | 2346 fps | 98.8% |
| Shooters World SW4350 | <<locked>> | 94% | 45,266 psi | 77% | 2490 fps | 95.4% |
| SNPE Vectan SP 11 | <<locked>> | 80% | 34,374 psi | 59% | 2320 fps | 96.4% |
| SNPE Vectan SP 3 | <<locked>> | 80% | 43,482 psi | 74% | 2349 fps | 100% |
| SNPE Vectan SP 7 | <<locked>> | 80% | 42,743 psi | 73% | 2421 fps | 96.8% |
| SNPE Vectan SP 9 | <<locked>> | 80% | 41,060 psi | 70% | 2411 fps | 98.3% |
| SNPE Vectan Tubal 3000 | <<locked>> | 80% | 43,410 psi | 74% | 2356 fps | 100% |
| SNPE Vectan Tubal 5000 | <<locked>> | 80% | 36,129 psi | 62% | 2238 fps | 100% |
| SNPE Vectan Tubal 7000 | <<locked>> | 94% | 47,137 psi | 80% | 2461 fps | 95.6% |
| Somchem S321 | <<locked>> | 80% | 47,950 psi | 82% | 2520 fps | 99.9% |
| Somchem S335 | <<locked>> | 80% | 43,134 psi | 73% | 2359 fps | 100% |
| Somchem S341 | <<locked>> | 80% | 42,250 psi | 72% | 2421 fps | 98.4% |
| Somchem S355 | <<locked>> | 80% | 34,737 psi | 59% | 2290 fps | 97.2% |
| Somchem S365 | <<locked>> | 82% | 27,180 psi | 46% | 2185 fps | 95.4% |
| Vihtavuori N130 | <<locked>> | 80% | 48,776 psi | 83% | 2408 fps | 100% |
| Vihtavuori N133 | <<locked>> | 80% | 43,482 psi | 74% | 2349 fps | 100% |
| Vihtavuori N135 | <<locked>> | 80% | 39,407 psi | 67% | 2346 fps | 100% |
| Vihtavuori N140 | <<locked>> | 80% | 39,900 psi | 68% | 2349 fps | 100% |
| Vihtavuori N150 | <<locked>> | 80% | 32,982 psi | 56% | 2234 fps | 98% |
| Vihtavuori N160 | <<locked>> | 86% | 35,056 psi | 60% | 2316 fps | 95% |
| Vihtavuori N530 | <<locked>> | 80% | 44,483 psi | 76% | 2438 fps | 99.6% |
| Vihtavuori N540 | <<locked>> | 80% | 38,450 psi | 65% | 2343 fps | 99.9% |
| Vihtavuori N550 | <<locked>> | 88% | 36,680 psi | 62% | 2372 fps | 95.5% |
| Vihtavuori N555 | <<locked>> | 94% | 32,967 psi | 56% | 2362 fps | 95.4% |
| Winchester 6.5 StaBALL | <<locked>> | 82% | 31,328 psi | 53% | 2208 fps | 95.8% |
| Winchester 748 | <<locked>> | 80% | 43,685 psi | 74% | 2480 fps | 99.9% |
| Winchester 760 | <<locked>> | 94% | 45,556 psi | 78% | 2556 fps | 95.4% |
| Winchester StaBALL HD | <<locked>> | 98% | 31,140 psi | 53% | 2356 fps | 95.5% |
| Winchester StaBALL Match | <<locked>> | 80% | 40,234 psi | 68% | 2411 fps | 98.6% |
Recommended = one of the top powders for this cartridge and bullet combination.
ᴾ possible press load - work up slowly to this load while watching for signs of excessive pressure.
This overview compares 95 powders for 8 x 65 RS loaded with the .323 | 200gr | Barnes X S. Alliant Power Pro 2000-MR delivers the highest muzzle velocity at 2,720 fps; across all powders the maximum-charge window runs from 1,568 fps to 2,720 fps. Accurate 4350 gives the best case fill at 100 %, and 95 of the 95 powders fall inside the usable 80–100 % fill window.
Relative to the caliber's maximum pressure (405 MPa), the top charges use 56–90 %, leaving at least 10 % headroom. The 200.0 gr projectile in 0.323" calls for a 1:13.0 twist; slower twists will usually not stabilise this weight. Accurate 4350, Alliant Reloder-16, Alliant Reloder-23 reach 100 % fill or more at maximum charge, so these are compressed loads: they need a long drop tube to seat cleanly and react sensitively to the case capacity of your own brass lot. ReloadSwiss RS 60, Alliant Reloder-17, Alliant Power Pro 2000-MR rank at the top here: for 8 x 65 RS with the .323 | 200gr | Barnes X S they combine a high case fill with complete burn and sit in the upper velocity band. Always begin at the start load and work up in small increments while checking case and primer for pressure signs.