Load data for .38 Super Auto + .358 | 80gr | Rim Rock DEWC

.38 Super Auto cartridge drawing
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Load Specifications

Bullet Manufacturer:Rim Rock
Bullet Weight:80 gr
Bullet Diameter:0.358"
Bullet Length:<<locked>>
Case Length (l3):0.89"
Cartridge Length (C.O.L.):<<locked>>
Case Capacity:17.6 Grains of Water
Primer Size:Small Pistol (SP)
Barrel Length:5"
Max. allowed Pressure:33,359 psi

Load data in caliber .38 Super Auto with .358 | 80gr | Rim Rock DEWC bullet and 57 powders. The key underlying parameters are shown in the table above. The recommended powders for this cartridge and bullet combination are ReloadSwiss RS 20, Maxam CSB 2 and Alliant UNIQUE.

Important Notice: DO NOT go below Minimum Charge or above Maximum Charge. Since we have no control over the equipment and components used, any responsibility and liability for the results achieved is rejected.

Only powders/loads that match the current filter criteria are displayed: max pressure of a load ≤ 90% of max. standardized pressure, fill rate ≥ 60% and propellant combustion ≥ 80%. Use the sliders above the tables to adjust these thresholds.

Charge: Powder weight in grains. Start with the minimum load and work up carefully.

FR (Fill Rate): Case fill as a percentage. Values above 100% mean compressed loads.

MaxP / %: Maximum chamber pressure in bar and as a percentage of the standardized maximum for this caliber.

V(0): Muzzle velocity in feet per second (fps) at the standardized barrel length.

z (Powder Burn): Estimated propellant combustion percentage at bullet exit.

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Max Load - Barrel Length: 5"

PowderChargeFRMaxP%V(0)z
Accurate No. 2*<<locked>>84%29,617 psi89%1565 fps94.9%
Accurate Solo 1000<<locked>>80%27,615 psi83%1480 fps100%
Accurate Solo 1250<<locked>>92%29,211 psi88%1572 fps100%
ADI AP 70N²<<locked>>76%28,514 psi85%1581 fps100%
ADI APS 350²<<locked>>76%28,398 psi85%1362 fps100%
ADI APS 450<<locked>>80%29,341 psi88%1417 fps100%
ADI AS 30<<locked>>84%28,805 psi86%1473 fps100%
ADI AS 50N<<locked>>80%28,703 psi86%1522 fps100%
Alliant BE-86<<locked>>88%27,963 psi84%1542 fps100%
Alliant BULLSEYE<<locked>>80%29,269 psi88%1627 fps98.1%
Alliant Green Dot<<locked>>84%28,311 psi85%1519 fps100%
Alliant Hercoᴾ<<locked>>100%24,265 psi73%1516 fps95.4%
Alliant RED DOT<<locked>>88%29,834 psi89%1519 fps100%
Alliant Sport Pistol²<<locked>>72%26,977 psi81%1578 fps96.5%
Alliant UNIQUE<<locked>>92%28,442 psi85%1621 fps97.2%
Baschieri & Pellagri 100<<locked>>84%27,775 psi83%1493 fps100%
Baschieri & Pellagri 102 Pistolᴾ<<locked>>100%23,859 psi72%1447 fps100%
Baschieri & Pellagri 103 Pistol<<locked>>80%27,528 psi83%1512 fps100%
Hodgdon CFE Pistol²<<locked>>64%26,905 psi81%1545 fps99.4%
Hodgdon Clays<<locked>>88%28,718 psi86%1404 fps100%
Hodgdon HP38²<<locked>>64%29,820 psi89%1562 fps100%
Hodgdon HS-6*²<<locked>>76%29,747 psi89%1621 fps88.6%
Hodgdon Longshot*²<<locked>>72%28,645 psi86%1604 fps90.3%
Hodgdon TrailBossᴾ<<locked>>100%10,167 psi30%1027 fps98.3%
Hodgdon Universal<<locked>>84%28,514 psi85%1581 fps100%
Lovex S011²<<locked>>72%28,065 psi84%1512 fps100%
Lovex S020<<locked>>84%29,240 psi88%1598 fps98.8%
Maxam CSB 1<<locked>>96%29,805 psi89%1575 fps100%
Maxam CSB 2<<locked>>92%27,934 psi84%1585 fps100%
Maxam CSB 3<<locked>>88%28,935 psi87%1545 fps100%
Maxam CSB 4<<locked>>84%28,964 psi87%1522 fps100%
Maxam CSB 5²<<locked>>76%27,398 psi82%1444 fps100%
Ramshot Silhouette²<<locked>>76%29,225 psi88%1614 fps95.5%
Ramshot True Blue*²<<locked>>72%30,168 psi90%1627 fps91.2%
Ramshot Zip²<<locked>>64%28,689 psi86%1549 fps100%
ReloadSwiss RS 12<<locked>>80%28,500 psi85%1578 fps100%
ReloadSwiss RS 14*ᴾ<<locked>>100%9,108 psi27%1001 fps93%
ReloadSwiss RS 20<<locked>>96%29,298 psi88%1657 fps99.1%
Rottweil P 801²<<locked>>76%30,095 psi90%1558 fps100%
SNPE Vectan A0<<locked>>92%28,079 psi84%1549 fps96.8%
SNPE Vectan A1<<locked>>80%27,122 psi81%1506 fps100%
SNPE Vectan BA 9<<locked>>84%29,095 psi87%1552 fps99.5%
SNPE Vectan BA10²<<locked>>72%27,427 psi82%1385 fps100%
SNPE Vectan BA7 1/2*ᴾ<<locked>>100%28,456 psi85%1575 fps89.3%
SNPE Vectan BA9 1/2<<locked>>84%27,673 psi83%1545 fps99.8%
Somchem MP200<<locked>>84%28,384 psi85%1594 fps96%
Somchem MS200<<locked>>88%28,631 psi86%1581 fps98%
Vihtavuori 3N37*<<locked>>92%27,731 psi83%1601 fps90.2%
Vihtavuori N310²<<locked>>64%28,326 psi85%1421 fps100%
Vihtavuori N320<<locked>>84%29,791 psi89%1552 fps100%
Vihtavuori N32C Tin Starᴾ<<locked>>100%18,550 psi56%1273 fps100%
Vihtavuori N330<<locked>>84%28,413 psi85%1594 fps100%
Vihtavuori N340<<locked>>88%27,688 psi83%1565 fps97%
Vihtavuori N350*ᴾ<<locked>>100%28,514 psi85%1614 fps91%
Winchester 231²<<locked>>72%29,501 psi88%1565 fps100%
Winchester 572*²<<locked>>64%28,500 psi85%1614 fps89.3%
Winchester AutoComp <<locked>>92%28,514 psi85%1568 fps99.7%

Recommended = one of the top powders for this cartridge and bullet combination.

Start Load - Barrel Length: 5"

PowderChargeFRMaxP%V(0)z
Accurate No. 2*²<<locked>>64%16,331 psi49%1250 fps85.2%
Accurate Solo 1000²<<locked>>60%16,230 psi49%1220 fps99.7%
Accurate Solo 1250*²<<locked>>60%12,778 psi38%1152 fps91.6%
ADI AP 70N²<<locked>>60%18,492 psi55%1348 fps97.6%
ADI APS 350²<<locked>>60%19,247 psi58%1191 fps100%
ADI APS 450²<<locked>>60%18,405 psi55%1207 fps100%
ADI AS 30²<<locked>>60%16,085 psi48%1204 fps100%
ADI AS 50N²<<locked>>60%16,621 psi50%1250 fps99.5%
Alliant BE-86*²<<locked>>60%12,778 psi38%1161 fps94.6%
Alliant BULLSEYE*²<<locked>>60%17,013 psi51%1312 fps90.4%
Alliant Green Dot²<<locked>>60%15,229 psi46%1211 fps99%
Alliant Herco*²<<locked>>76%13,880 psi42%1214 fps85.8%
Alliant RED DOT²<<locked>>60%15,418 psi46%1204 fps100%
Alliant Sport Pistol*²<<locked>>60%19,203 psi58%1378 fps91.5%
Alliant UNIQUE*²5.4 gr64%14,156 psi42%1227 fps85.9%
Baschieri & Pellagri 100²<<locked>>60%14,779 psi44%1191 fps97.8%
Baschieri & Pellagri 102 Pistol*²<<locked>>60%8,673 psi26%994 fps92.8%
Baschieri & Pellagri 103 Pistol²<<locked>>60%15,055 psi45%1234 fps98.7%
Hodgdon CFE Pistol²<<locked>>60%23,337 psi70%1467 fps98.4%
Hodgdon Clays²<<locked>>60%14,779 psi44%1119 fps100%
Hodgdon HP38²<<locked>>60%25,715 psi77%1486 fps100%
Hodgdon HS-6*²<<locked>>72%26,150 psi78%1545 fps86.4%
Hodgdon Longshot*²<<locked>>64%22,089 psi66%1457 fps85.6%
Hodgdon TrailBoss*²<<locked>>60%4,830 psi14%728 fps86.6%
Hodgdon Universal²<<locked>>60%15,026 psi45%1243 fps95%
Lovex S011²<<locked>>60%20,073 psi60%1342 fps98.8%
Lovex S020*²<<locked>>60%13,909 psi42%1211 fps88.8%
Maxam CSB 1*²<<locked>>60%11,879 psi36%1112 fps90.5%
Maxam CSB 2²4.7 gr60%11,168 psi33%1145 fps95.3%
Maxam CSB 3²<<locked>>60%14,083 psi42%1188 fps97.2%
Maxam CSB 4²<<locked>>60%15,331 psi46%1217 fps99.5%
Maxam CSB 5²<<locked>>60%17,390 psi52%1240 fps100%
Ramshot Silhouette*²<<locked>>60%17,622 psi53%1332 fps87.3%
Ramshot True Blue*²<<locked>>64%23,279 psi70%1476 fps86.6%
Ramshot Zip²<<locked>>60%25,469 psi76%1486 fps99.9%
ReloadSwiss RS 12²<<locked>>60%15,461 psi46%1286 fps99.9%
ReloadSwiss RS 14*²<<locked>>76%6,092 psi18%827 fps85.4%
ReloadSwiss RS 20*²5.6 gr64%12,386 psi37%1181 fps85.4%
Rottweil P 801²<<locked>>60%19,160 psi57%1345 fps100%
SNPE Vectan A0*²<<locked>>68%15,519 psi47%1227 fps87.6%
SNPE Vectan A1²<<locked>>60%15,679 psi47%1227 fps96.4%
SNPE Vectan BA 9*²<<locked>>60%14,968 psi45%1204 fps91.9%
SNPE Vectan BA10²<<locked>>60%20,653 psi62%1260 fps100%
SNPE Vectan BA7 1/2*<<locked>>92%23,844 psi71%1473 fps86.1%
SNPE Vectan BA9 1/2*²<<locked>>60%14,112 psi42%1198 fps92.9%
Somchem MP200*²<<locked>>64%16,346 psi49%1286 fps87.1%
Somchem MS200*²<<locked>>60%13,677 psi41%1178 fps86.7%
Vihtavuori 3N37*<<locked>>84%21,669 psi65%1463 fps85.8%
Vihtavuori N310²<<locked>>60%24,279 psi73%1355 fps100%
Vihtavuori N320²<<locked>>60%15,389 psi46%1247 fps99.7%
Vihtavuori N32C Tin Star²<<locked>>60%7,614 psi23%922 fps98.6%
Vihtavuori N330*²<<locked>>60%13,692 psi41%1230 fps94.6%
Vihtavuori N340*²<<locked>>64%14,156 psi42%1211 fps86.5%
Vihtavuori N350*<<locked>>88%20,871 psi63%1437 fps85.3%
Winchester 231²<<locked>>60%20,436 psi61%1375 fps98.8%
Winchester 572*²<<locked>>60%24,207 psi73%1516 fps86.3%
Winchester AutoComp *²<<locked>>60%12,241 psi37%1138 fps89.4%

Recommended = one of the top powders for this cartridge and bullet combination.

* not dangerous but load has suboptimal powder burnt with possible characteristics such as extensive muzzle flash or inaccurate loads.

² fill rate low - you might want to consider using a filler to ensure proper ignition.

ᴾ possible press load - work up slowly to this load while watching for signs of excessive pressure.

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This overview compares 57 powders for .38 Super Auto loaded with the .358 | 80gr | Rim Rock DEWC. ReloadSwiss RS 20 delivers the highest muzzle velocity at 1,657 fps; across all powders the maximum-charge window runs from 1,001 fps to 1,657 fps. Alliant Herco gives the best case fill at 100 %, and 40 of the 57 powders fall inside the usable 80–100 % fill window.

Relative to the caliber's maximum pressure (230 MPa), the top charges use 27–90 %, leaving at least 10 % headroom. Alliant Herco, Baschieri & Pellagri 102 Pistol, Hodgdon TrailBoss reach 100 % fill or more at maximum charge, so these are compressed loads: they need a long drop tube to seat cleanly and react sensitively to the case capacity of your own brass lot. ReloadSwiss RS 20, Maxam CSB 2, Alliant UNIQUE rank at the top here: for .38 Super Auto with the .358 | 80gr | Rim Rock DEWC they combine a high case fill with complete burn and sit in the upper velocity band. As outliers, Accurate No. 2, Hodgdon HS-6, Hodgdon Longshot burn incompletely and react more sensitively to barrel length and temperature. Baschieri & Pellagri 102 Pistol, Hodgdon Clays, Hodgdon TrailBoss stay subsonic at start load. Always begin at the start load and work up in small increments while checking case and primer for pressure signs.

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