Load data for .38 Super Auto + .357 | 158gr | Geco HOLLOW POINT

.38 Super Auto cartridge drawing
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Load Specifications

Bullet Manufacturer:Geco
Bullet Weight:158 gr
Bullet Diameter:0.357"
Bullet Length:<<locked>>
Case Length (l3):0.89"
Cartridge Length (C.O.L.):<<locked>>
Case Capacity:17.6 Grains of Water
Primer Size:Small Pistol (SP)
Barrel Length:5"
Max. allowed Pressure:33,359 psi

Load data in caliber .38 Super Auto with .357 | 158gr | Geco HOLLOW POINT bullet and 61 powders. The key underlying parameters are shown in the table above. The recommended powders for this cartridge and bullet combination are Rottweil P 806, Vihtavuori N350 and SNPE Vectan BA7 1/2.

Important Notice: DO NOT go below Minimum Charge or above Maximum Charge. Since we have no control over the equipment and components used, any responsibility and liability for the results achieved is rejected.

Only powders/loads that match the current filter criteria are displayed: max pressure of a load ≤ 90% of max. standardized pressure, fill rate ≥ 60% and propellant combustion ≥ 80%. Use the sliders above the tables to adjust these thresholds.

Charge: Powder weight in grains. Start with the minimum load and work up carefully.

FR (Fill Rate): Case fill as a percentage. Values above 100% mean compressed loads.

MaxP / %: Maximum chamber pressure in bar and as a percentage of the standardized maximum for this caliber.

V(0): Muzzle velocity in feet per second (fps) at the standardized barrel length.

z (Powder Burn): Estimated propellant combustion percentage at bullet exit.

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Max Load - Barrel Length: 5"

PowderChargeFRMaxP%V(0)z
Accurate No. 2²<<locked>>76%28,311 psi85%1001 fps99.6%
Accurate No. 5*²<<locked>>64%29,080 psi87%1073 fps94.6%
Accurate Solo 1000²<<locked>>76%29,370 psi88%945 fps100%
Accurate Solo 1250<<locked>>84%29,530 psi89%997 fps100%
ADI AP 100*ᴾ<<locked>>100%27,731 psi83%1053 fps92%
ADI AP 70N²<<locked>>68%28,805 psi86%1004 fps100%
ADI APS 350²<<locked>>72%29,820 psi89%856 fps100%
ADI APS 450²<<locked>>72%28,529 psi86%873 fps100%
ADI AS 30²<<locked>>76%28,311 psi85%909 fps100%
ADI AS 50N²<<locked>>72%28,210 psi85%948 fps100%
Alliant BE-86<<locked>>80%28,253 psi85%981 fps100%
Alliant BULLSEYE²<<locked>>72%28,660 psi86%1037 fps100%
Alliant Green Dot²<<locked>>76%27,833 psi83%945 fps100%
Alliant Hercoᴾ<<locked>>100%28,964 psi87%1050 fps100%
Alliant POWER PISTOL*<<locked>>84%28,689 psi86%1102 fps91.9%
Alliant RED DOT<<locked>>80%30,052 psi90%948 fps100%
Alliant Sport Pistol²<<locked>>68%28,906 psi87%1040 fps100%
Alliant UNIQUE<<locked>>84%29,428 psi88%1056 fps100%
Baschieri & Pellagri 100²<<locked>>76%27,818 psi83%935 fps100%
Baschieri & Pellagri 102 Pistolᴾ<<locked>>100%29,979 psi90%981 fps100%
Baschieri & Pellagri 103 Pistol²<<locked>>76%29,791 psi89%984 fps100%
Hodgdon CFE Pistol<<locked>>80%29,994 psi90%1014 fps100%
Hodgdon Clays<<locked>>84%29,863 psi90%886 fps100%
Hodgdon HS-6²<<locked>>68%28,456 psi85%1053 fps96.2%
Hodgdon Longshot²<<locked>>64%27,151 psi81%1037 fps97.2%
Hodgdon TrailBossᴾ<<locked>>100%12,357 psi37%696 fps100%
Hodgdon Universal²<<locked>>76%28,805 psi86%1004 fps100%
Lovex D036*²<<locked>>64%29,037 psi87%1073 fps94.6%
Lovex S011²<<locked>>64%26,876 psi81%942 fps100%
Lovex S020²<<locked>>76%29,486 psi88%1024 fps100%
Maxam CSB 1<<locked>>84%27,789 psi83%974 fps100%
Maxam CSB 2<<locked>>84%29,008 psi87%1004 fps100%
Maxam CSB 3<<locked>>80%28,282 psi85%961 fps100%
Maxam CSB 4²<<locked>>76%28,921 psi87%951 fps100%
Maxam CSB 5²<<locked>>72%28,906 psi87%912 fps100%
Ramshot Silhouette²<<locked>>68%27,717 psi83%1030 fps99.7%
Ramshot True Blue²<<locked>>64%28,776 psi86%1053 fps97.7%
ReloadSwiss RS 12²<<locked>>72%28,210 psi85%981 fps100%
ReloadSwiss RS 14ᴾ<<locked>>100%11,356 psi34%699 fps100%
ReloadSwiss RS 20<<locked>>88%29,863 psi90%1066 fps100%
Rottweil P 801²<<locked>>68%30,095 psi90%971 fps100%
Rottweil P 806<<locked>>96%27,804 psi83%1145 fps97.1%
Shooters World Auto Pistol*²<<locked>>64%29,037 psi87%1073 fps94.6%
SNPE Vectan A0<<locked>>84%27,340 psi82%988 fps100%
SNPE Vectan A1²<<locked>>76%28,732 psi86%974 fps100%
SNPE Vectan BA 9²<<locked>>76%27,659 psi83%974 fps100%
SNPE Vectan BA10²<<locked>>68%28,514 psi85%873 fps100%
SNPE Vectan BA7 1/2<<locked>>92%29,196 psi88%1050 fps97.3%
SNPE Vectan BA9 1/2²<<locked>>76%26,890 psi81%974 fps100%
SNPE Vectan SP 2*<<locked>>80%27,485 psi82%1106 fps93.6%
Somchem MP200²<<locked>>76%27,949 psi84%1027 fps99.9%
Somchem MS200<<locked>>80%28,282 psi85%1014 fps100%
Somchem S221*²<<locked>>72%28,166 psi84%1070 fps88.6%
Vihtavuori 3N37<<locked>>84%27,456 psi82%1050 fps97.7%
Vihtavuori N320²<<locked>>76%30,168 psi90%974 fps100%
Vihtavuori N32C Tin Starᴾ<<locked>>100%23,308 psi70%846 fps100%
Vihtavuori N330²<<locked>>76%28,137 psi84%1004 fps100%
Vihtavuori N340<<locked>>80%28,340 psi85%1017 fps100%
Vihtavuori N350<<locked>>92%28,892 psi87%1066 fps98.4%
Winchester 231²<<locked>>64%28,500 psi85%978 fps100%
Winchester AutoComp <<locked>>84%28,587 psi86%1004 fps100%

Recommended = one of the top powders for this cartridge and bullet combination.

Start Load - Barrel Length: 5"

PowderChargeFRMaxP%V(0)z
Accurate No. 2²<<locked>>60%17,709 psi53%843 fps95.6%
Accurate No. 5*²<<locked>>60%25,947 psi78%1027 fps93.1%
Accurate Solo 1000²<<locked>>60%19,493 psi58%820 fps100%
Accurate Solo 1250²<<locked>>60%15,287 psi46%797 fps99.7%
ADI AP 100*<<locked>>84%18,855 psi57%909 fps85.5%
ADI AP 70N²<<locked>>60%21,901 psi66%915 fps100%
ADI APS 350²<<locked>>60%22,568 psi68%778 fps100%
ADI APS 450²<<locked>>60%20,784 psi62%784 fps100%
ADI AS 30²<<locked>>60%19,493 psi58%801 fps100%
ADI AS 50N²<<locked>>60%19,812 psi59%840 fps100%
Alliant BE-86²<<locked>>60%15,635 psi47%807 fps100%
Alliant BULLSEYE²<<locked>>60%20,566 psi62%919 fps99.4%
Alliant Green Dot²<<locked>>60%18,536 psi56%823 fps100%
Alliant Herco*²<<locked>>60%11,414 psi34%732 fps92.2%
Alliant POWER PISTOL*²<<locked>>72%20,218 psi61%961 fps85.9%
Alliant RED DOT²<<locked>>60%18,550 psi56%804 fps100%
Alliant Sport Pistol²<<locked>>60%23,090 psi69%961 fps99.6%
Alliant UNIQUE²<<locked>>60%15,606 psi47%833 fps96.5%
Baschieri & Pellagri 100²<<locked>>60%17,506 psi52%804 fps100%
Baschieri & Pellagri 102 Pistol²<<locked>>60%11,023 psi33%705 fps100%
Baschieri & Pellagri 103 Pistol²<<locked>>60%18,608 psi56%850 fps100%
Hodgdon CFE Pistol²<<locked>>60%16,839 psi50%833 fps99.9%
Hodgdon Clays²<<locked>>60%17,579 psi53%738 fps100%
Hodgdon HS-6*²<<locked>>60%20,943 psi63%942 fps92.1%
Hodgdon Longshot²<<locked>>60%23,235 psi70%978 fps95.4%
Hodgdon TrailBoss²<<locked>>60%5,874 psi18%512 fps98.1%
Hodgdon Universal²<<locked>>60%18,898 psi57%869 fps100%
Lovex D036*²<<locked>>60%25,904 psi78%1027 fps93%
Lovex S011²<<locked>>60%24,352 psi73%909 fps100%
Lovex S020²<<locked>>60%18,072 psi54%869 fps99.3%
Maxam CSB 1²<<locked>>60%14,736 psi44%781 fps99.6%
Maxam CSB 2²<<locked>>60%15,055 psi45%814 fps100%
Maxam CSB 3²<<locked>>60%17,027 psi51%810 fps100%
Maxam CSB 4²<<locked>>60%19,203 psi58%830 fps100%
Maxam CSB 5²<<locked>>60%20,885 psi63%817 fps100%
Ramshot Silhouette²<<locked>>60%21,669 psi65%945 fps98.2%
Ramshot True Blue²<<locked>>60%24,700 psi74%994 fps96.1%
ReloadSwiss RS 12²<<locked>>60%19,986 psi60%879 fps100%
ReloadSwiss RS 14*²<<locked>>60%5,744 psi17%515 fps94.2%
ReloadSwiss RS 20²<<locked>>60%13,445 psi40%804 fps96.9%
Rottweil P 801²<<locked>>60%23,830 psi71%902 fps100%
Rottweil P 806*²6.8 gr76%14,243 psi43%906 fps86.9%
Shooters World Auto Pistol*²<<locked>>60%25,904 psi78%1027 fps93%
SNPE Vectan A0²<<locked>>60%15,142 psi45%791 fps95.8%
SNPE Vectan A1²<<locked>>60%18,449 psi55%837 fps100%
SNPE Vectan BA 9²<<locked>>60%17,651 psi53%830 fps99.6%
SNPE Vectan BA10²<<locked>>60%23,206 psi70%814 fps100%
SNPE Vectan BA7 1/2*²4.2 gr64%13,677 psi41%781 fps85.9%
SNPE Vectan BA9 1/2²<<locked>>60%17,593 psi53%840 fps100%
SNPE Vectan SP 2*²<<locked>>68%19,072 psi57%965 fps87.5%
Somchem MP200²<<locked>>60%18,101 psi54%873 fps97.1%
Somchem MS200²<<locked>>60%16,346 psi49%827 fps97.7%
Somchem S221*²<<locked>>68%24,511 psi73%1014 fps86.2%
Vihtavuori 3N37*²<<locked>>60%13,285 psi40%797 fps87.1%
Vihtavuori N320²<<locked>>60%18,681 psi56%837 fps100%
Vihtavuori N32C Tin Star²<<locked>>60%9,761 psi29%633 fps100%
Vihtavuori N330²<<locked>>60%16,940 psi51%853 fps100%
Vihtavuori N340²<<locked>>60%15,229 psi46%814 fps96.6%
Vihtavuori N350*²3.9 gr60%11,893 psi36%758 fps85.3%
Winchester 231²<<locked>>60%24,874 psi75%935 fps100%
Winchester AutoComp ²<<locked>>60%15,084 psi45%804 fps99.2%

Recommended = one of the top powders for this cartridge and bullet combination.

* not dangerous but load has suboptimal powder burnt with possible characteristics such as extensive muzzle flash or inaccurate loads.

² fill rate low - you might want to consider using a filler to ensure proper ignition.

ᴾ possible press load - work up slowly to this load while watching for signs of excessive pressure.

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This overview compares 19 powders for .38 Super Auto loaded with the .357 | 158gr | Geco HOLLOW POINT. Rottweil P 806 delivers the highest muzzle velocity at 1,145 fps; across all powders the maximum-charge window runs from 696 fps to 1,145 fps. ADI AP 100 gives the best case fill at 100 %, and 19 of the 19 powders fall inside the usable 80–100 % fill window.

Relative to the caliber's maximum pressure (230 MPa), the top charges use 34–90 %, leaving at least 10 % headroom. ADI AP 100, Alliant Herco, Baschieri & Pellagri 102 Pistol reach 100 % fill or more at maximum charge, so these are compressed loads: they need a long drop tube to seat cleanly and react sensitively to the case capacity of your own brass lot. Rottweil P 806, Vihtavuori N350, SNPE Vectan BA7 1/2 rank at the top here: for .38 Super Auto with the .357 | 158gr | Geco HOLLOW POINT they combine a high case fill with complete burn and sit in the upper velocity band. As outliers, ADI AP 100, Alliant POWER PISTOL burn incompletely and react more sensitively to barrel length and temperature. Accurate Solo 1250, ADI AP 100, Alliant Herco stay subsonic at start load. Always begin at the start load and work up in small increments while checking case and primer for pressure signs.

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