Load data for .38-45 ACP + .358 | 80gr | Rim Rock DEWC

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Load Specifications

Bullet Manufacturer:Rim Rock
Bullet Weight:80 gr
Bullet Diameter:0.358"
Bullet Length:<<locked>>
Case Length (l3):0.898"
Cartridge Length (C.O.L.):<<locked>>
Case Capacity:22 Grains of Water
Primer Size:Small Pistol (SP)
Barrel Length:5"
Max. allowed Pressure:34,084 psi

Load data in caliber .38-45 ACP with .358 | 80gr | Rim Rock DEWC bullet and 56 powders. The key underlying parameters are shown in the table above. The recommended powders for this cartridge and bullet combination are ReloadSwiss RS 20, SNPE Vectan A0 and Maxam CSB 1.

Important Notice: DO NOT go below Minimum Charge or above Maximum Charge. Since we have no control over the equipment and components used, any responsibility and liability for the results achieved is rejected.

Only powders/loads that match the current filter criteria are displayed: max pressure of a load ≤ 90% of max. standardized pressure, fill rate ≥ 60% and propellant combustion ≥ 80%. Use the sliders above the tables to adjust these thresholds.

Charge: Powder weight in grains. Start with the minimum load and work up carefully.

FR (Fill Rate): Case fill as a percentage. Values above 100% mean compressed loads.

MaxP / %: Maximum chamber pressure in bar and as a percentage of the standardized maximum for this caliber.

V(0): Muzzle velocity in feet per second (fps) at the standardized barrel length.

z (Powder Burn): Estimated propellant combustion percentage at bullet exit.

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Max Load - Barrel Length: 5"

PowderChargeFRMaxP%V(0)z
Accurate No. 2²<<locked>>76%28,456 psi83%1647 fps96.5%
Accurate No. 5*²<<locked>>64%29,602 psi87%1732 fps88.9%
Accurate Solo 1000²<<locked>>76%28,892 psi85%1581 fps100%
Accurate Solo 1250<<locked>>84%29,617 psi87%1660 fps100%
ADI AP 70N²<<locked>>72%30,806 psi90%1706 fps100%
ADI APS 350²<<locked>>72%29,602 psi87%1457 fps100%
ADI APS 450²<<locked>>76%30,806 psi90%1519 fps100%
ADI AS 30<<locked>>80%30,574 psi90%1581 fps100%
ADI AS 50N²<<locked>>76%30,603 psi90%1637 fps100%
Alliant BE-86<<locked>>84%30,690 psi90%1667 fps100%
Alliant BULLSEYE²<<locked>>72%27,862 psi82%1683 fps98.8%
Alliant Green Dot<<locked>>80%30,139 psi88%1631 fps100%
Alliant Hercoᴾ<<locked>>100%29,254 psi86%1709 fps98.8%
Alliant RED DOT<<locked>>80%29,312 psi86%1585 fps100%
Alliant Sport Pistol²<<locked>>68%29,008 psi85%1706 fps98.6%
Alliant UNIQUE<<locked>>84%28,514 psi84%1709 fps98.6%
Baschieri & Pellagri 100<<locked>>80%30,472 psi89%1621 fps100%
Baschieri & Pellagri 102 Pistolᴾ<<locked>>100%29,443 psi86%1617 fps100%
Baschieri & Pellagri 103 Pistol²<<locked>>76%30,371 psi89%1634 fps100%
Hodgdon Clays<<locked>>84%30,008 psi88%1503 fps100%
Hodgdon HS-6*²<<locked>>68%28,007 psi82%1683 fps90.4%
Hodgdon Longshot*²<<locked>>64%26,992 psi79%1660 fps91.8%
Hodgdon TrailBossᴾ<<locked>>100%12,067 psi35%1148 fps99.9%
Hodgdon Universal²<<locked>>76%28,094 psi82%1654 fps100%
Lovex D036*²<<locked>>64%29,544 psi87%1729 fps88.8%
Lovex S011²<<locked>>68%30,095 psi88%1634 fps100%
Lovex S020²<<locked>>76%28,355 psi83%1670 fps99.5%
Maxam CSB 1<<locked>>88%29,849 psi88%1660 fps100%
Maxam CSB 2<<locked>>84%28,427 psi83%1657 fps100%
Maxam CSB 3<<locked>>80%28,674 psi84%1617 fps100%
Maxam CSB 4<<locked>>80%30,719 psi90%1634 fps100%
Maxam CSB 5²<<locked>>72%28,921 psi85%1542 fps100%
Ramshot Silhouette²<<locked>>68%27,804 psi82%1673 fps96.7%
Ramshot True Blue*²<<locked>>64%28,137 psi83%1683 fps92.6%
ReloadSwiss RS 12²<<locked>>72%28,036 psi82%1634 fps100%
ReloadSwiss RS 14ᴾ<<locked>>100%11,153 psi33%1135 fps97.3%
ReloadSwiss RS 20<<locked>>88%29,892 psi88%1749 fps99.9%
Rottweil P 801²<<locked>>68%29,211 psi86%1611 fps100%
Rottweil P 806*<<locked>>96%29,109 psi85%1808 fps91.7%
Shooters World Auto Pistol*²<<locked>>64%29,544 psi87%1729 fps88.8%
SNPE Vectan A0<<locked>>88%30,139 psi88%1683 fps98.9%
SNPE Vectan A1²<<locked>>76%29,008 psi85%1621 fps100%
SNPE Vectan BA 9²<<locked>>76%27,905 psi82%1617 fps99.9%
SNPE Vectan BA10²<<locked>>68%28,529 psi84%1480 fps100%
SNPE Vectan BA7 1/2*<<locked>>92%28,732 psi84%1680 fps92.2%
SNPE Vectan BA9 1/2<<locked>>80%29,501 psi87%1663 fps100%
Somchem MP200²<<locked>>76%27,760 psi81%1670 fps97.4%
Somchem MS200<<locked>>80%27,862 psi82%1657 fps99%
Vihtavuori 3N37*<<locked>>88%30,501 psi89%1752 fps94.2%
Vihtavuori N320²<<locked>>76%29,095 psi85%1614 fps100%
Vihtavuori N32C Tin Starᴾ<<locked>>100%23,032 psi68%1421 fps100%
Vihtavuori N330²<<locked>>76%27,543 psi81%1650 fps100%
Vihtavuori N340<<locked>>84%30,792 psi90%1716 fps99.2%
Vihtavuori N350*<<locked>>92%29,457 psi86%1726 fps94%
Winchester 231²<<locked>>64%27,847 psi82%1614 fps100%
Winchester AutoComp <<locked>>84%28,631 psi84%1654 fps100%

Recommended = one of the top powders for this cartridge and bullet combination.

Start Load - Barrel Length: 5"

PowderChargeFRMaxP%V(0)z
Accurate No. 2*²<<locked>>60%17,260 psi51%1358 fps88.9%
Accurate No. 5*²<<locked>>60%25,657 psi75%1640 fps86.2%
Accurate Solo 1000²<<locked>>60%19,145 psi56%1371 fps100%
Accurate Solo 1250²<<locked>>60%15,069 psi44%1296 fps96%
ADI AP 70N²<<locked>>60%22,002 psi65%1512 fps99.7%
ADI APS 350²<<locked>>60%21,973 psi64%1316 fps100%
ADI APS 450²<<locked>>60%20,363 psi60%1319 fps100%
ADI AS 30²<<locked>>60%19,058 psi56%1342 fps100%
ADI AS 50N²<<locked>>60%20,088 psi59%1411 fps100%
Alliant BE-86²<<locked>>60%15,635 psi46%1316 fps98.4%
Alliant BULLSEYE²<<locked>>60%20,015 psi59%1480 fps95%
Alliant Green Dot²<<locked>>60%18,231 psi53%1365 fps100%
Alliant Herco*²<<locked>>64%12,198 psi36%1207 fps85.5%
Alliant RED DOT²<<locked>>60%17,956 psi53%1339 fps100%
Alliant Sport Pistol²<<locked>>60%22,814 psi67%1558 fps96%
Alliant UNIQUE*²<<locked>>60%15,069 psi44%1325 fps89.4%
Baschieri & Pellagri 100²<<locked>>60%17,274 psi51%1332 fps99.8%
Baschieri & Pellagri 102 Pistol²<<locked>>60%10,530 psi31%1125 fps97.2%
Baschieri & Pellagri 103 Pistol²<<locked>>60%18,318 psi54%1381 fps100%
Hodgdon Clays²<<locked>>60%17,085 psi50%1240 fps100%
Hodgdon HS-6*²<<locked>>64%24,265 psi71%1591 fps87.7%
Hodgdon Longshot*²<<locked>>60%23,380 psi69%1572 fps89.3%
Hodgdon TrailBoss*²<<locked>>60%5,642 psi17%823 fps91.7%
Hodgdon Universal²<<locked>>60%18,333 psi54%1411 fps98.6%
Lovex D036*²<<locked>>60%25,614 psi75%1637 fps86.1%
Lovex S011²<<locked>>60%23,177 psi68%1496 fps100%
Lovex S020*²<<locked>>60%17,187 psi50%1385 fps94.4%
Maxam CSB 1²6.1 gr60%14,504 psi43%1273 fps95.6%
Maxam CSB 2²<<locked>>60%14,373 psi42%1309 fps99.1%
Maxam CSB 3²<<locked>>60%16,737 psi49%1335 fps99.6%
Maxam CSB 4²<<locked>>60%18,304 psi54%1368 fps100%
Maxam CSB 5²<<locked>>60%21,074 psi62%1391 fps100%
Ramshot Silhouette*²<<locked>>60%21,306 psi63%1516 fps93%
Ramshot True Blue*²<<locked>>60%24,323 psi71%1591 fps90.1%
ReloadSwiss RS 12²<<locked>>60%19,914 psi58%1460 fps100%
ReloadSwiss RS 14*²<<locked>>60%5,381 psi16%810 fps85.3%
ReloadSwiss RS 20*²6.9 gr60%13,373 psi39%1286 fps89.6%
Rottweil P 801²<<locked>>60%23,322 psi68%1496 fps100%
Rottweil P 806*<<locked>>88%22,002 psi65%1634 fps86.2%
Shooters World Auto Pistol*²<<locked>>60%25,614 psi75%1637 fps86.1%
SNPE Vectan A0*²6.6 gr60%14,678 psi43%1270 fps89%
SNPE Vectan A1²<<locked>>60%18,507 psi54%1381 fps99.2%
SNPE Vectan BA 9²<<locked>>60%17,695 psi52%1362 fps96.3%
SNPE Vectan BA10²<<locked>>60%22,916 psi67%1375 fps100%
SNPE Vectan BA7 1/2*<<locked>>80%21,132 psi62%1493 fps86.7%
SNPE Vectan BA9 1/2²<<locked>>60%17,042 psi50%1362 fps97.2%
Somchem MP200*²<<locked>>60%17,390 psi51%1391 fps90.6%
Somchem MS200*²<<locked>>60%16,273 psi48%1342 fps92.3%
Vihtavuori 3N37*²<<locked>>72%19,261 psi57%1473 fps86.1%
Vihtavuori N320²<<locked>>60%18,434 psi54%1388 fps100%
Vihtavuori N32C Tin Star²<<locked>>60%9,311 psi27%1037 fps100%
Vihtavuori N330²<<locked>>60%16,853 psi49%1391 fps98.5%
Vihtavuori N340*²<<locked>>60%15,243 psi45%1316 fps90.3%
Vihtavuori N350*²<<locked>>76%18,579 psi55%1453 fps85.8%
Winchester 231²<<locked>>60%24,076 psi71%1535 fps100%
Winchester AutoComp *²<<locked>>60%14,779 psi43%1289 fps94.5%

Recommended = one of the top powders for this cartridge and bullet combination.

* not dangerous but load has suboptimal powder burnt with possible characteristics such as extensive muzzle flash or inaccurate loads.

² fill rate low - you might want to consider using a filler to ensure proper ignition.

ᴾ possible press load - work up slowly to this load while watching for signs of excessive pressure.

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This overview compares 56 powders for .38-45 ACP loaded with the .358 | 80gr | Rim Rock DEWC. Rottweil P 806 delivers the highest muzzle velocity at 1,808 fps; across all powders the maximum-charge window runs from 1,135 fps to 1,808 fps. Alliant Herco gives the best case fill at 100 %, and 27 of the 56 powders fall inside the usable 80–100 % fill window.

Relative to the caliber's maximum pressure (235 MPa), the top charges use 33–90 %, leaving at least 10 % headroom. Alliant Herco, Baschieri & Pellagri 102 Pistol, Hodgdon TrailBoss reach 100 % fill or more at maximum charge, so these are compressed loads: they need a long drop tube to seat cleanly and react sensitively to the case capacity of your own brass lot. ReloadSwiss RS 20, SNPE Vectan A0, Maxam CSB 1 rank at the top here: for .38-45 ACP with the .358 | 80gr | Rim Rock DEWC they combine a high case fill with complete burn and sit in the upper velocity band. As outliers, Accurate No. 5, Hodgdon HS-6, Hodgdon Longshot burn incompletely and react more sensitively to barrel length and temperature. Hodgdon TrailBoss, ReloadSwiss RS 14, Vihtavuori N32C Tin Star stay subsonic at start load. Always begin at the start load and work up in small increments while checking case and primer for pressure signs.

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