Load Specifications
Load data in caliber .30 R Blaser with .308 | 180gr | Nosler AccuBond bullet and 94 powders. The key underlying parameters are shown in the table above. The recommended powders for this cartridge and bullet combination are Alliant Reloder-16, ReloadSwiss RS 70 and Hodgdon Superformance.
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Only powders/loads that match the current filter criteria are displayed: max pressure of a load ≤ 90% of max. standardized pressure, fill rate ≥ 80% and propellant combustion ≥ 95%. Use the sliders above the tables to adjust these thresholds.
Charge: Powder weight in grains. Start with the minimum load and work up carefully.
FR (Fill Rate): Case fill as a percentage. Values above 100% mean compressed loads.
MaxP / %: Maximum chamber pressure in bar and as a percentage of the standardized maximum for this caliber.
V(0): Muzzle velocity in feet per second (fps) at the standardized barrel length.
z (Powder Burn): Estimated propellant combustion percentage at bullet exit.
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Max Load - Barrel Length: 23.62"
| Powder | Charge | FR | MaxP | % | V(0) | z |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Accurate 2495 | <<locked>> | 84% | 49,879 psi | 85% | 2543 fps | 100% |
| Accurate 2700 | <<locked>> | 86% | 52,083 psi | 89% | 2585 fps | 97% |
| Accurate 3100ᴾ | <<locked>> | 100% | 43,903 psi | 75% | 2546 fps | 97.2% |
| Accurate 4064 | <<locked>> | 86% | 50,111 psi | 85% | 2589 fps | 100% |
| Accurate 4350 | <<locked>> | 94% | 49,748 psi | 85% | 2664 fps | 99.4% |
| ADI AR 2206H | <<locked>> | 82% | 50,096 psi | 85% | 2612 fps | 99.9% |
| ADI AR 2208 | <<locked>> | 88% | 51,271 psi | 87% | 2615 fps | 99.7% |
| ADI AR 2209ᴾ | <<locked>> | 100% | 51,677 psi | 88% | 2694 fps | 96.1% |
| ADI Benchmark 8208 | <<locked>> | 82% | 52,286 psi | 89% | 2612 fps | 100% |
| Alliant Power Pro 2000-MR | <<locked>> | 86% | 52,982 psi | 90% | 2769 fps | 99.9% |
| Alliant Power Pro Varmintᴾ | <<locked>> | 100% | 51,169 psi | 87% | 2684 fps | 96.1% |
| Alliant Reloder- TS 15.5 | <<locked>> | 88% | 51,416 psi | 88% | 2638 fps | 100% |
| Alliant Reloder-15 | <<locked>> | 86% | 51,663 psi | 88% | 2654 fps | 99.8% |
| Alliant Reloder-16 | <<locked>> | 96% | 51,140 psi | 87% | 2720 fps | 99.8% |
| Alliant Reloder-17 | <<locked>> | 92% | 51,996 psi | 89% | 2749 fps | 100% |
| Alliant Reloder-19ᴾ | <<locked>> | 100% | 50,502 psi | 86% | 2680 fps | 96% |
| Alliant Reloder-23ᴾ | <<locked>> | 100% | 41,698 psi | 71% | 2575 fps | 99.6% |
| Alliant Reloder-26ᴾ | <<locked>> | 100% | 46,847 psi | 80% | 2733 fps | 99.1% |
| Baschieri & Pellagri 107 | <<locked>> | 82% | 49,734 psi | 85% | 2621 fps | 99.5% |
| Bofors RP3 | <<locked>> | 88% | 51,750 psi | 88% | 2648 fps | 100% |
| Bofors RP7 | <<locked>> | 92% | 51,822 psi | 88% | 2621 fps | 97.3% |
| Hodgdon BL-C2 | <<locked>> | 82% | 51,590 psi | 88% | 2638 fps | 100% |
| Hodgdon H380 | <<locked>> | 88% | 52,634 psi | 90% | 2661 fps | 99.4% |
| Hodgdon H414 | <<locked>> | 94% | 52,286 psi | 89% | 2707 fps | 98% |
| Hodgdon H4350 | <<locked>> | 92% | 53,084 psi | 90% | 2674 fps | 96.9% |
| Hodgdon H4895 | <<locked>> | 82% | 50,589 psi | 86% | 2621 fps | 100% |
| Hodgdon Hybrid 100V | <<locked>> | 98% | 50,618 psi | 86% | 2648 fps | 100% |
| Hodgdon LEVERevolution | <<locked>> | 84% | 50,067 psi | 85% | 2651 fps | 100% |
| Hodgdon Superformance | <<locked>> | 94% | 52,576 psi | 90% | 2740 fps | 97.7% |
| Hodgdon TrailBossᴾ | <<locked>> | 100% | 35,621 psi | 61% | 1644 fps | 100% |
| Hodgdon VARGET | <<locked>> | 84% | 51,851 psi | 88% | 2625 fps | 100% |
| IMR 3031 | <<locked>> | 82% | 50,575 psi | 86% | 2605 fps | 100% |
| IMR 4064 | <<locked>> | 86% | 50,691 psi | 86% | 2598 fps | 99.8% |
| IMR 4166 Enduron | <<locked>> | 84% | 50,372 psi | 86% | 2575 fps | 97.5% |
| IMR 4350 | <<locked>> | 96% | 52,112 psi | 89% | 2644 fps | 97.4% |
| IMR 4451 Enduron | <<locked>> | 90% | 50,531 psi | 86% | 2602 fps | 97.4% |
| IMR 4831 | <<locked>> | 96% | 50,430 psi | 86% | 2657 fps | 99.5% |
| IMR 4895 | <<locked>> | 86% | 52,997 psi | 90% | 2680 fps | 100% |
| IMR 8208 XBR | <<locked>> | 82% | 52,286 psi | 89% | 2612 fps | 100% |
| Lovex D073.6 | <<locked>> | 82% | 49,734 psi | 85% | 2589 fps | 100% |
| Lovex S060 | <<locked>> | 84% | 52,736 psi | 90% | 2592 fps | 100% |
| Lovex S062 | <<locked>> | 86% | 50,618 psi | 86% | 2595 fps | 100% |
| Lovex S065 | <<locked>> | 94% | 53,142 psi | 90% | 2648 fps | 99% |
| Lovex S070 | <<locked>> | 94% | 50,778 psi | 86% | 2628 fps | 97.8% |
| Norma 201 | <<locked>> | 84% | 52,199 psi | 89% | 2608 fps | 100% |
| Norma 202 | <<locked>> | 84% | 52,794 psi | 90% | 2612 fps | 100% |
| Norma 203B | <<locked>> | 86% | 50,923 psi | 87% | 2641 fps | 99.9% |
| Norma 204 | <<locked>> | 96% | 52,750 psi | 90% | 2690 fps | 96.2% |
| Norma MRPᴾ | <<locked>> | 100% | 46,586 psi | 79% | 2690 fps | 96.7% |
| Norma URP | <<locked>> | 96% | 52,199 psi | 89% | 2700 fps | 99.6% |
| Ramshot Big Game | <<locked>> | 86% | 51,300 psi | 87% | 2664 fps | 99.9% |
| Ramshot Hunter | <<locked>> | 96% | 51,140 psi | 87% | 2697 fps | 98.5% |
| Ramshot TAC | <<locked>> | 82% | 52,431 psi | 89% | 2628 fps | 99% |
| Ramshot Wild Boar | <<locked>> | 82% | 52,156 psi | 89% | 2648 fps | 100% |
| ReloadSwiss RS 14ᴾ | <<locked>> | 100% | 36,158 psi | 62% | 1683 fps | 100% |
| ReloadSwiss RS 50 | <<locked>> | 88% | 52,910 psi | 90% | 2644 fps | 98.5% |
| ReloadSwiss RS 52 | <<locked>> | 84% | 52,127 psi | 89% | 2713 fps | 99.9% |
| ReloadSwiss RS 60 | <<locked>> | 90% | 51,590 psi | 88% | 2746 fps | 100% |
| ReloadSwiss RS 62 | <<locked>> | 96% | 52,794 psi | 90% | 2733 fps | 99.6% |
| ReloadSwiss RS 70 | <<locked>> | 96% | 52,098 psi | 89% | 2756 fps | 99.4% |
| Rottweil R 901 | <<locked>> | 82% | 53,098 psi | 90% | 2592 fps | 100% |
| Rottweil R 902 | <<locked>> | 86% | 52,852 psi | 90% | 2612 fps | 100% |
| Rottweil R 903 | <<locked>> | 90% | 51,866 psi | 88% | 2644 fps | 100% |
| Rottweil R 905ᴾ | <<locked>> | 100% | 49,124 psi | 84% | 2661 fps | 95.9% |
| Rottweil R 907 | <<locked>> | 92% | 51,822 psi | 88% | 2621 fps | 97.3% |
| Shooters World Long Rifle | <<locked>> | 94% | 53,142 psi | 90% | 2648 fps | 99% |
| Shooters World Match Rifle | <<locked>> | 82% | 49,734 psi | 85% | 2589 fps | 100% |
| Shooters World Precision | <<locked>> | 86% | 50,618 psi | 86% | 2595 fps | 100% |
| Shooters World SW4350 | <<locked>> | 94% | 50,778 psi | 86% | 2628 fps | 97.8% |
| SNPE Vectan SP 11 | <<locked>> | 88% | 50,038 psi | 85% | 2651 fps | 99.9% |
| SNPE Vectan SP 7 | <<locked>> | 82% | 50,894 psi | 87% | 2608 fps | 99.2% |
| SNPE Vectan SP 9 | <<locked>> | 84% | 51,895 psi | 88% | 2635 fps | 99.9% |
| SNPE Vectan Tubal 3000 | <<locked>> | 82% | 50,285 psi | 86% | 2507 fps | 100% |
| SNPE Vectan Tubal 5000 | <<locked>> | 88% | 50,546 psi | 86% | 2507 fps | 100% |
| SNPE Vectan Tubal 7000 | <<locked>> | 92% | 50,038 psi | 85% | 2552 fps | 97.4% |
| Somchem S335 | <<locked>> | 84% | 52,982 psi | 90% | 2549 fps | 100% |
| Somchem S341 | <<locked>> | 82% | 50,633 psi | 86% | 2602 fps | 99.9% |
| Somchem S355 | <<locked>> | 90% | 52,185 psi | 89% | 2644 fps | 100% |
| Somchem S365 | <<locked>> | 98% | 50,531 psi | 86% | 2707 fps | 100% |
| Somchem S385ᴾ | <<locked>> | 100% | 49,879 psi | 85% | 2641 fps | 96.9% |
| Vihtavuori N133 | <<locked>> | 82% | 50,618 psi | 86% | 2497 fps | 100% |
| Vihtavuori N135 | <<locked>> | 86% | 52,591 psi | 90% | 2575 fps | 100% |
| Vihtavuori N140 | <<locked>> | 84% | 50,096 psi | 85% | 2549 fps | 100% |
| Vihtavuori N150 | <<locked>> | 90% | 50,183 psi | 85% | 2575 fps | 100% |
| Vihtavuori N160 | <<locked>> | 94% | 51,314 psi | 87% | 2651 fps | 99.5% |
| Vihtavuori N530 | <<locked>> | 82% | 52,533 psi | 89% | 2608 fps | 100% |
| Vihtavuori N540 | <<locked>> | 86% | 51,590 psi | 88% | 2589 fps | 100% |
| Vihtavuori N550 | <<locked>> | 94% | 50,372 psi | 86% | 2654 fps | 99.3% |
| Vihtavuori N555ᴾ | <<locked>> | 100% | 46,021 psi | 78% | 2648 fps | 99.4% |
| Winchester 6.5 StaBALL | <<locked>> | 94% | 51,227 psi | 87% | 2628 fps | 100% |
| Winchester 748 | <<locked>> | 82% | 52,678 psi | 90% | 2654 fps | 100% |
| Winchester 760 | <<locked>> | 94% | 52,518 psi | 89% | 2710 fps | 98.1% |
| Winchester StaBALL HDᴾ | <<locked>> | 100% | 37,231 psi | 63% | 2585 fps | 99.6% |
| Winchester StaBALL Match | <<locked>> | 84% | 51,735 psi | 88% | 2641 fps | 100% |
Recommended = one of the top powders for this cartridge and bullet combination.
Start Load - Barrel Length: 23.62"
| Powder | Charge | FR | MaxP | % | V(0) | z |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Accurate 2495 | <<locked>> | 80% | 43,932 psi | 75% | 2457 fps | 100% |
| Accurate 2700 | <<locked>> | 82% | 45,745 psi | 78% | 2484 fps | 95.6% |
| Accurate 3100 | <<locked>> | 96% | 38,276 psi | 65% | 2444 fps | 95.6% |
| Accurate 4064 | <<locked>> | 80% | 41,553 psi | 71% | 2457 fps | 100% |
| Accurate 4350 | <<locked>> | 82% | 32,735 psi | 56% | 2343 fps | 95.6% |
| ADI AR 2206H | <<locked>> | 80% | 47,065 psi | 80% | 2562 fps | 99.7% |
| ADI AR 2208 | <<locked>> | 80% | 40,016 psi | 68% | 2421 fps | 98.2% |
| ADI AR 2209 | <<locked>> | 98% | 48,399 psi | 82% | 2638 fps | 95.2% |
| ADI Benchmark 8208 | <<locked>> | 80% | 49,139 psi | 84% | 2566 fps | 100% |
| Alliant Power Pro 2000-MR | <<locked>> | 80% | 43,163 psi | 73% | 2602 fps | 98.9% |
| Alliant Power Pro Varmint | <<locked>> | 98% | 48,022 psi | 82% | 2635 fps | 95.3% |
| Alliant Reloder- TS 15.5 | <<locked>> | 80% | 39,827 psi | 68% | 2444 fps | 99.3% |
| Alliant Reloder-15 | <<locked>> | 80% | 42,714 psi | 73% | 2503 fps | 98.9% |
| Alliant Reloder-16 | 48.2 gr | 82% | 32,924 psi | 56% | 2356 fps | 95.6% |
| Alliant Reloder-17 | <<locked>> | 80% | 34,548 psi | 59% | 2421 fps | 98% |
| Alliant Reloder-19 | <<locked>> | 98% | 47,413 psi | 81% | 2628 fps | 95.2% |
| Alliant Reloder-23 | <<locked>> | 88% | 28,718 psi | 49% | 2270 fps | 95.4% |
| Alliant Reloder-26 | <<locked>> | 92% | 35,215 psi | 60% | 2490 fps | 95.8% |
| Baschieri & Pellagri 107 | <<locked>> | 80% | 46,485 psi | 79% | 2569 fps | 99.1% |
| Bofors RP3 | <<locked>> | 80% | 39,595 psi | 67% | 2448 fps | 99.4% |
| Bofors RP7 | <<locked>> | 86% | 43,134 psi | 73% | 2474 fps | 95.1% |
| Hodgdon BL-C2 | <<locked>> | 80% | 48,443 psi | 82% | 2592 fps | 100% |
| Hodgdon H380 | <<locked>> | 80% | 40,480 psi | 69% | 2454 fps | 97.4% |
| Hodgdon H414 | <<locked>> | 86% | 40,161 psi | 68% | 2497 fps | 95% |
| Hodgdon H4350 | <<locked>> | 88% | 46,586 psi | 79% | 2569 fps | 95.3% |
| Hodgdon H4895 | <<locked>> | 80% | 47,500 psi | 81% | 2572 fps | 99.9% |
| Hodgdon Hybrid 100V | <<locked>> | 80% | 28,384 psi | 48% | 2211 fps | 95.6% |
| Hodgdon LEVERevolution | <<locked>> | 80% | 43,787 psi | 75% | 2549 fps | 99.8% |
| Hodgdon Superformance | 58.9 gr | 88% | 42,482 psi | 72% | 2562 fps | 95.1% |
| Hodgdon TrailBoss | <<locked>> | 80% | 26,672 psi | 45% | 1473 fps | 100% |
| Hodgdon VARGET | <<locked>> | 80% | 45,440 psi | 77% | 2523 fps | 99.7% |
| IMR 3031 | <<locked>> | 80% | 47,558 psi | 81% | 2562 fps | 100% |
| IMR 4064 | <<locked>> | 80% | 42,047 psi | 72% | 2454 fps | 98.8% |
| IMR 4166 Enduron | <<locked>> | 80% | 44,527 psi | 76% | 2474 fps | 96.2% |
| IMR 4350 | <<locked>> | 90% | 43,207 psi | 74% | 2497 fps | 95.2% |
| IMR 4451 Enduron | <<locked>> | 84% | 41,945 psi | 71% | 2454 fps | 95.3% |
| IMR 4831 | <<locked>> | 82% | 31,821 psi | 54% | 2306 fps | 95.2% |
| IMR 4895 | <<locked>> | 80% | 43,758 psi | 74% | 2533 fps | 99.4% |
| IMR 8208 XBR | <<locked>> | 80% | 49,139 psi | 84% | 2566 fps | 100% |
| Lovex D073.6 | <<locked>> | 80% | 46,615 psi | 79% | 2543 fps | 100% |
| Lovex S060 | <<locked>> | 80% | 46,818 psi | 80% | 2500 fps | 99.7% |
| Lovex S062 | <<locked>> | 80% | 42,047 psi | 72% | 2457 fps | 99.7% |
| Lovex S065 | <<locked>> | 82% | 36,738 psi | 63% | 2356 fps | 95.4% |
| Lovex S070 | <<locked>> | 86% | 39,697 psi | 68% | 2434 fps | 95.1% |
| Norma 201 | <<locked>> | 80% | 46,238 psi | 79% | 2520 fps | 100% |
| Norma 202 | <<locked>> | 80% | 46,441 psi | 79% | 2520 fps | 100% |
| Norma 203B | <<locked>> | 80% | 42,076 psi | 72% | 2493 fps | 99.2% |
| Norma 204 | <<locked>> | 94% | 49,197 psi | 84% | 2635 fps | 95.4% |
| Norma MRP | <<locked>> | 98% | 43,439 psi | 74% | 2631 fps | 95.8% |
| Norma URP | <<locked>> | 82% | 33,098 psi | 56% | 2346 fps | 95.5% |
| Ramshot Big Game | <<locked>> | 80% | 41,887 psi | 71% | 2510 fps | 99% |
| Ramshot Hunter | <<locked>> | 88% | 39,320 psi | 67% | 2487 fps | 95.8% |
| Ramshot TAC | <<locked>> | 80% | 49,153 psi | 84% | 2579 fps | 98.6% |
| Ramshot Wild Boar | <<locked>> | 80% | 48,776 psi | 83% | 2595 fps | 99.8% |
| ReloadSwiss RS 14 | <<locked>> | 80% | 27,021 psi | 46% | 1506 fps | 100% |
| ReloadSwiss RS 50 | <<locked>> | 80% | 40,625 psi | 69% | 2434 fps | 95.8% |
| ReloadSwiss RS 52 | <<locked>> | 80% | 45,397 psi | 77% | 2605 fps | 99.3% |
| ReloadSwiss RS 60 | <<locked>> | 80% | 36,767 psi | 63% | 2484 fps | 99.9% |
| ReloadSwiss RS 62 | <<locked>> | 82% | 32,547 psi | 55% | 2359 fps | 95% |
| ReloadSwiss RS 70 | 55.3 gr | 86% | 37,144 psi | 63% | 2470 fps | 96% |
| Rottweil R 901 | <<locked>> | 80% | 50,183 psi | 85% | 2549 fps | 100% |
| Rottweil R 902 | <<locked>> | 80% | 43,947 psi | 75% | 2474 fps | 99.9% |
| Rottweil R 903 | <<locked>> | 80% | 37,376 psi | 64% | 2398 fps | 98.8% |
| Rottweil R 905 | <<locked>> | 98% | 45,992 psi | 78% | 2608 fps | 95.1% |
| Rottweil R 907 | <<locked>> | 86% | 43,134 psi | 73% | 2474 fps | 95.1% |
| Shooters World Long Rifle | <<locked>> | 82% | 36,738 psi | 63% | 2356 fps | 95.4% |
| Shooters World Match Rifle | <<locked>> | 80% | 46,615 psi | 79% | 2543 fps | 100% |
| Shooters World Precision | <<locked>> | 80% | 42,047 psi | 72% | 2457 fps | 99.7% |
| Shooters World SW4350 | <<locked>> | 86% | 39,697 psi | 68% | 2434 fps | 95.1% |
| SNPE Vectan SP 11 | <<locked>> | 80% | 38,305 psi | 65% | 2444 fps | 98.4% |
| SNPE Vectan SP 7 | <<locked>> | 80% | 47,471 psi | 81% | 2552 fps | 98.7% |
| SNPE Vectan SP 9 | <<locked>> | 80% | 45,585 psi | 78% | 2533 fps | 99.5% |
| SNPE Vectan Tubal 3000 | <<locked>> | 80% | 47,326 psi | 81% | 2464 fps | 100% |
| SNPE Vectan Tubal 5000 | <<locked>> | 80% | 39,581 psi | 67% | 2343 fps | 100% |
| SNPE Vectan Tubal 7000 | <<locked>> | 86% | 41,002 psi | 70% | 2402 fps | 95.2% |
| Somchem S335 | <<locked>> | 80% | 47,050 psi | 80% | 2467 fps | 100% |
| Somchem S341 | <<locked>> | 80% | 47,326 psi | 81% | 2549 fps | 99.7% |
| Somchem S355 | <<locked>> | 80% | 38,116 psi | 65% | 2405 fps | 98.8% |
| Somchem S365 | <<locked>> | 80% | 27,702 psi | 47% | 2247 fps | 96.9% |
| Somchem S385 | <<locked>> | 96% | 43,801 psi | 75% | 2539 fps | 95.4% |
| Vihtavuori N133 | <<locked>> | 80% | 47,747 psi | 81% | 2457 fps | 100% |
| Vihtavuori N135 | <<locked>> | 80% | 43,627 psi | 74% | 2451 fps | 100% |
| Vihtavuori N140 | <<locked>> | 80% | 44,077 psi | 75% | 2461 fps | 100% |
| Vihtavuori N150 | <<locked>> | 80% | 36,260 psi | 62% | 2343 fps | 99.3% |
| Vihtavuori N160 | <<locked>> | 80% | 32,285 psi | 55% | 2297 fps | 95.1% |
| Vihtavuori N530 | <<locked>> | 80% | 49,255 psi | 84% | 2562 fps | 100% |
| Vihtavuori N540 | <<locked>> | 80% | 42,554 psi | 72% | 2451 fps | 100% |
| Vihtavuori N550 | <<locked>> | 82% | 34,011 psi | 58% | 2349 fps | 95.6% |
| Vihtavuori N555 | <<locked>> | 88% | 30,937 psi | 53% | 2339 fps | 95.6% |
| Winchester 6.5 StaBALL | <<locked>> | 80% | 32,053 psi | 55% | 2274 fps | 97.3% |
| Winchester 748 | <<locked>> | 80% | 49,385 psi | 84% | 2608 fps | 100% |
| Winchester 760 | <<locked>> | 86% | 40,161 psi | 68% | 2497 fps | 95% |
| Winchester StaBALL HD | <<locked>> | 92% | 28,834 psi | 49% | 2346 fps | 96.2% |
| Winchester StaBALL Match | <<locked>> | 80% | 45,107 psi | 77% | 2536 fps | 99.8% |
Recommended = one of the top powders for this cartridge and bullet combination.
ᴾ possible press load - work up slowly to this load while watching for signs of excessive pressure.
This overview compares 94 powders for .30 R Blaser loaded with the .308 | 180gr | Nosler AccuBond. Alliant Power Pro 2000-MR delivers the highest muzzle velocity at 2,769 fps; across all powders the maximum-charge window runs from 1,644 fps to 2,769 fps. Accurate 3100 gives the best case fill at 100 %, and 94 of the 94 powders fall inside the usable 80–100 % fill window.
Relative to the caliber's maximum pressure (405 MPa), the top charges use 61–90 %, leaving at least 10 % headroom. The 180.0 gr projectile in 0.308" calls for a 1:12.0 twist; slower twists will usually not stabilise this weight. Accurate 3100, ADI AR 2209, Alliant Power Pro Varmint reach 100 % fill or more at maximum charge, so these are compressed loads: they need a long drop tube to seat cleanly and react sensitively to the case capacity of your own brass lot. Alliant Reloder-16, ReloadSwiss RS 70, Hodgdon Superformance rank at the top here: for .30 R Blaser with the .308 | 180gr | Nosler AccuBond they combine a high case fill with complete burn and sit in the upper velocity band. Always begin at the start load and work up in small increments while checking case and primer for pressure signs.